So... The Government is Shut Down...

I think they are a sign of respect that if possible should be done. But, I don't think that the Revolutionary war deaths that were not given military flyovers were given any less respect. Nor do I think that a flyover is a mandatory for current service members. Again, it is a sign of military honor but not an absolute must as a way for proper respects to be given.
As you are kind of alluding to, there is more than one way to show respect.
AND I have been to several military funerals and there is....nothing more respectful. None had...flyover

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My thoughts on the subject.

Good news: Congress still gets paid!
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REMINDER: Members of Congress get paid during a shutdown. Their salaries are written into permanent law. Congress gets paid during a shutdown, while staffers don’t. Here’s why. (http://wapo.st/18KLCyi)

And our WWII vets have something to do:
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World War II veterans have reportedly stormed the closed WWII memorial - @LeoShane
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Seems to me like Congress ought not get paid, and the vets should be able to visit an open air memorial without having to storm it. Our country is eff'd up in so many ways :(

edit: maybe congress could donate their pay towards keeping the monuments open for now...

From what I heard they actually had people working to shut down the WWII memorial. Wouldn't it have been just as easy to pay the same people to keep it open.

Heard one guy interviewed who was kicked out of a park where they had been camping. He comented by saying. There was around 60 camp sites full at $60 bucks a night and with one ranger on duty wasn't the park actually making money?

the actual barracading of those type memorials (open air) were nothing more than showmanship by the administration.

Likewise, the media buys into the term shutdown, when something like 80+% of the government is still funded (ie Social Security, Medicare, Military). It's the normal scare tactics by the left and comical ideologues on the right.

Honestly the country might as well be run by daytime soap actors/actresses. At least then the intrigue might be interesting.

I have four friends who now are going without a paycheck because of the shutdown. It is hitting them very hard. And I live in podunk Mississippi...I can only imagine the economic pain to many in the DC area, for example.

It's just not fair when you can't pay the rent, you can't fix your car, you're worried about feeding the kids, etc.

The Affordable Care Act was established through democratic legislative, executive, and judicial processes. Don't like it? Then do the democratic thing and get enough people elected to overturn it. Don't hold the whole country hostage.

The whole system needs an enema. They are our representatives, not our masters.

Just as well Americans are too TV neutered to organize and riot.

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I have four friends who now are going without a paycheck because of the shutdown. It is hitting them very hard. And I live in podunk Mississippi...I can only imagine the economic pain to many in the DC area, for example.

It's just not fair when you can't pay the rent, you can't fix your car, you're worried about feeding the kids, etc.

The Affordable Care Act was established through democratic legislative, executive, and judicial processes. Don't like it? Then do the democratic thing and get enough people elected to overturn it. Don't hold the whole country hostage.

I understand your points Lotus, but when you say get enough people elected to overturn it, the House is the place the Constitution says has to start the yearly budgeting, and there are enough in the House to overturn it. That should, in my opinion, at least be enough of a reason that a President elected to serve all the people, not just those that agree with him, ought to consider a delay of implementation and then have the issue revisited after the next election.

I understand your points Lotus, but when you say get enough people elected to overturn it, the House is the place the Constitution says has to start the yearly budgeting, and there are enough in the House to overturn it. That should, in my opinion, at least be enough of a reason that a President elected to serve all the people, not just those that agree with him, ought to consider a delay of implementation and then have the issue revisited after the next election.

Actually my friend, Congress includes both House and Senate, and despite 40 plus attempts the ACA has not been overturned. That is democracy at work.

The House is charged to fund initiatives which have become law. The ACA is one of those initiatives. It is a law. So Congress can overturn the law (which has not happened) or Congress can fund the government, including the ACA. By shutting things down, a small group of representatives are (a) not doing what they are charged to do, and (b) undemocratically holding the country hostage.

The shutdown was enacted not by the will of the people but by 80 representatives. That is not democracy. In terms of process, it is actually closer to oligarchic fascism.

I am no great fan of the ACA. But the will of the people is expressed through more than just some members of the House.

On the lighter side, those who are looking forward to new craft beers can wait longer, thanks to the shutdown:

Government shutdown could hit craft beer industry - San Diego craft beer | Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/article/government-shutdown-could-hit-craft-beer-industry)