So... The Government is Shut Down...

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firstdown
10-14-2013, 06:03 PM
Seems like your chosing Party over Country. Interesting.

Because thats what it is, these politicians dont really care about their own people or this country, they putting party in front of their country. So screw my neighbor and my community, Im upset our party has lost multiple times at the polls, so we are going to do everything possible to shut down the government.

Get over it, you lost again! The people voted and the majority chose affordable health care.

I may not like it, you may not like it, but you cant try to change the will of the people. It doesnt work like that, and the Party will end up hurting itself even more.

Its actually the other way around. We currently have a 17 trillion dollar dept which is going to sink us but who cares lets just keep raising the debt ceiling. Our kids can pay for this.

firstdown
10-14-2013, 06:07 PM
What if someone wants to commit a crime at the memorial? Vandalize the memorial? We need personnel to be watching such spots but those folks are all out of jobs. That's why parks and memorials stay closed.

Don't you lock the doors of your house when you are not going to be at home? Same idea.


Really that's your argument. The WWII memorial has no doors its open unguarded 24/7 and the beach I was talking also has no doors. I guess someone could steal a shell or two.

firstdown
10-14-2013, 06:11 PM
On one thing he said he would not negotiate ,he also said he would listen to anything and that he would welcome an open dialog.

It was actually two things. Obama care and the debt ceiling but he has no problem with delaying the parts of Obama care as he wants. The Rep agreed to vote if Obama would implement the entire law as passed but he refused.

Giantone
10-14-2013, 06:19 PM
It was actually two things. Obama care and the debt ceiling but he has no problem with delaying the parts of Obama care as he wants. The Rep agreed to vote if Obama would implement the entire law as passed but he refused.



There is no such thing as Obama Care .

Lotus
10-14-2013, 06:31 PM
Really that's your argument. The WWII memorial has no doors its open unguarded 24/7 and the beach I was talking also has no doors. I guess someone could steal a shell or two.

My guess is that the memorial and the beach both have security in the form of park rangers who check in on them from time to time.

But even more, you can't shut down some federal landmarks and leave others open. And there definitely are federal landmarks which can be vandalized, serve as crime locations, etc.

It's the Tea Party which caused this situation. Take your frustration up with them.

Giantone
10-14-2013, 06:49 PM
It's the Tea Party which caused this situation. Take your frustration up with them.



While I agree 100% with you , no Republican will ever admit that it is ,their motto is blame the black man .

Lotus
10-14-2013, 07:05 PM
While I agree 100% with you , no Republican will ever admit that it is ,their motto is blame the black man .

Some non-Tea Party Republicans also blame the Tea Party and agree with you that the Tea Party is patently racist. Some. :)

firstdown
10-14-2013, 07:32 PM
Some non-Tea Party Republicans also blame the Tea Party and agree with you that the Tea Party is patently racist. Some. :)

That's such a crock of shit. Usually its the racist that point the finger first.

Lotus
10-14-2013, 07:38 PM
That's such a crock of shit. Usually its the racist that point the finger first.

I am hardly the first to make that observation.

Chico23231
10-14-2013, 08:21 PM
Rallier tells Obama to ‘put the Quran down’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/13/at-tea-party-like-rally-obama-told-to-put-the-quran-down/?hpt=hp_t2)

"I call upon all of you to wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town, to get up, to put the Quran down, to get up off his knees, and to figuratively come out with his hands up," said Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group.

When the right aligns themselves with wackos like this I just shake my head. This guy is a flat out nut.

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