Turnaround Time

I've said this a bunch on here, I'm a MS guy but this is embarrassing. Again if we don't finish at least 8-8 he should be gone

I've said this a bunch on here, I'm a MS guy but this is embarrassing. Again if we don't finish at least 8-8 he should be gone

What if...we finish below .500 but Kyle and Haslett leave after the season. Would you feel more optimistic with Mike grooming RG (alone) and an upgrade at DC ?

honestly No, because I don't think MS is doing a great job of getting these guys prepared every week. I mean these penalties and miscues are ridiculous. Just MO though.

Can anyone make an argument that haslett should stay through the bye?

^ if we shut out oakland sunday

Sounds about right, total domination by the defense after three lousy showings. Otherwise, you almost have to say Haslett goes on general principle.

Can anyone make an argument that haslett should stay through the bye?

No, he should be gone now. How many chances do you give this guy? On paper our defense should be better, we played without Orakpo, Meriweather. Neild last year, we had Gomes and M. Williams. This year we picked Tapp. Jenkins. Amerson. Rambo, Barnett. Orakpo and Meriweather are back and the team is worse off. No more excuse.

By the way this too:

@TarikCSN: The #Redskins add G Troy Kropog to prax squad, according to NFL records. He replaces X. Nixon, who was signed by Colts. #RedskinsTalk

As to the original topic, I dont think there is a clear answer. Harbaugh in San Fran walked into a situation where he had a large talent pool. The players there refused to play for Singletary. There was no turnaround needed player wise. But I do believe that Shanny came into a terrible situation that was started prior to his arrival with Vinny. I never expected to win the first couple of years he was here. It wasnt until year 3 that I thought we at least had a chance, and that was mainly because we finally had a QB.

To many people who jump on Shanny were the same people who said he was stupid for passing on Gabbert and taking Kerrigan. I still think people are prematurely calling RG3 a bust because he is not playing to his potential now. I believe that he can ultimately be a damn good passer in this league.

To the whole DC situation. I would like to ask a few questions. With the whole tackling situation that we are having now. Does a new DC solve those? We are leading the league in yards after missed tackles, doesnt that mean that the players are being put into decent situations and arent getting the job done with tackling? How much can a DC really teach tackling, you either want to or you dont?

Im not sure whats going on with the defense. Maybe a change is in order to see if a new voice gets through to them. Orakpo missed how many tackles in the game last week? He was getting free shots on the RB of detroit and couldnt Bell to the ground. And when I say free shots, I mean from behind when he didnt even see him coming. If the answer is we need new players, how much does the cap penalty come into play on whether we could have accomplished that in the last couple of years?

I think so far that Shanny has done more good than bad. Far from perfect, but most are. He has missed on some draft picks (Leribius) but hit on others (Morris). I still wouldnt mind seeing Allen take over more of the player acquisition aspect and let Shanny do full time coaching. Although Shanny may balk at something like that. If he is left with that option and chooses to leave, so be it. I dont want him fired as of yet, but if he had to make that choice and chose to leave, I wouldnt shed a tear over it.

No rebuilding here. Changing maybe the offense at the end of the season? Possibly. Completely changing the defense from a 3-4 to a 4-3? No. Replacing coaches and players come seasons end? Definitely.

As far as this season and turning it around, until we learn to wrap up and bring a player down, we are going to keep losing games. Until Robert stops throwing picks and making stupid plays, like the slide he still hasn't learned as one example. We aren't winning games. Fact of the matter is, our opportunities to win the game were in our offenses hands. But Robert screwed up twice and Aldrick can't hold onto the ball. So until both sides of the ball fixes basic pee wee football mistakes, we are not winning another game. That I am assured of.

I agree. You can't just look at 0-3 right now and say that this regime has reached its ceiling and been given a golden opportunity to have this team rebuilt. Nobody saw the big $36 million penalty coming, and the 'skins are reaping the benefit of that now. Mike Shanahan said it would take about five years to turn this team around, he's in year four. Give him one more year, and if successful - give him a one year extension. If the 'skins continue to improve and make the playoffs, then sign him to a bigger contract.

Coming from a doom and gloomer here, this is a great post.

Bravo.