skinsguy
09-23-2013, 03:19 PM
The way the rule is now if you go head first you can be hit. That's the way it should be. Either way I just don't agree with the ground causing a fumble period.
I don't really disagree with the fumble call yesterday - I felt it was a fumble right away. However, I DO think they need to address this rule and make it absolutely clear as to when the ground can cause a fumble and when it can't. I know at one point, the ground could absolutely not cause a fumble, and somewhere down the line that kind of changed. However, I don't think a player diving forward should ever be considered giving himself up. That would open up a huge can of worms.
mredskins
09-23-2013, 03:19 PM
I am getting a tat later to remember my aunt who died from breast cancer eariler this year. Might as well go ahead and turn myself in now.
We got a girl in my office that swears if you live in a townhouse or a gasp apartment you must be a criminal.
Some peoples minds just as small as a peanut.
Lotus
09-23-2013, 03:22 PM
I don't really disagree with the fumble call yesterday - I felt it was a fumble right away. However, I DO think they need to address this rule and make it absolutely clear as to when the ground can cause a fumble and when it can't. I know at one point, the ground could absolutely not cause a fumble, and somewhere down the line that kind of changed. However, I don't think a player diving forward should ever be considered giving himself up. That would open up a huge can of worms.
In the 45 years that I have played/followed football, it has always been true that if you were not down by contact, the ground could cause a fumble. It's all about whether someone is down by contact or not.
I knew the minute the ball came out it was a fumble. Its all on him to know the rules and not blame it on being a stupid rule for not knowing. With us wanting to portect him more and him knowing he needs to slide more he should have known the rule. Maybe take the time to read sliding rules while your between interviews.
Relax, he knows the rule, he just doesn't agree with it.
diehardskin2982
09-23-2013, 03:23 PM
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Can we please sign him on the cheap. He can help our KR game and change of pace!
donofriose
09-23-2013, 03:24 PM
The way the rule is now if you go head first you can be hit. That's the way it should be. Either way I just don't agree with the ground causing a fumble period.
He wasn't down by contact. He was sliding head first. If someone had touched him on the way down, no fumble. Lets just say for example he slid head first, and no one touched him and got up and starting running again. Should that have been ruled a touchdown? I would say yes.
He never gave himself up.
He was never ruled down by contact.
I obviously did not have a problem with that ruling because I could have seen that as a bigger problem if they had not ruled it a fumble and ruled him down.
He wasn't down by contact. He was sliding head first. If someone had touched him on the way down, no fumble. Lets just say for example he slid head first, and no one touched him and got up and starting running again. Should that have been ruled a touchdown? I would say yes.
He never gave himself up.
He was never ruled down by contact.
I obviously did not have a problem with that ruling because I could have seen that as a bigger problem if they had not ruled it a fumble and ruled him down.
I understand all that and the call was clearly the right one based on the rule.
I just don't like the rule.
skinsfaninok
09-23-2013, 03:32 PM
Griff has done a fantastic jon of getting out of bounds or down
skinsfan69
09-23-2013, 03:37 PM
On the other hand, how's Peyton Manning fairing? Wes Welker? Reggie Bush? (Before his minor injury) I hear Ahmad Bradshaw had a pretty good game with Indy yesterday. The difference between what you're saying and what others are saying is that the cap penalty kept the 'skins from not only acquiring upgrades where the team needs obvious upgrades, but to have the money to take the cap hit on the players that aren't really working out for the team, but are forced to play since the 'skins had no other options. It isn't about having millions of dollars to sign big name over the hill stars to multi-year multi-million dollar contracts.
Well bringing in a Peyton Manning and having him throw to Welker is not a good example to use. My point was this, the bad has outweighed the good when it's come to free agency. Especially around here. Would you agree with that? We need to sign some guys, I just don't want to see what we saw in 2000 just cause we have cap space.
punch it in
09-23-2013, 03:37 PM
The offense shot themselves in the foot a couple of times but the defense has been historically bad.
Given how bad the D has been it's going to be awfully hard for the offense make up for that no matter how well they play.
Seems to me they feed off each other. D had some crucial stops in big moments yesterday when the offense was clicking. If the offense faltered the d followed suit though.
I feel like if we could ever play with a lead in the second half that our d would be ok.
Edit: i guess what im saying is our d is bad and the pressure they are always under to keep us in the game because our offense isnt pulling their weight isnt helping