One Night Only: Offensive Packers-Redskins Game Review, Mythbusters Edition

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The Goat
09-17-2013, 03:13 AM
Would I be wrong in suggesting that the time to let Cousins play is getting closer?

Yes.

The Goat
09-17-2013, 03:25 AM
If you put much stock in GTripp's analysis, and I do, it sounds like the best short term fix on offense is putting the right players on the field i.e. receiving targets who best create separation from defenders. I think Tripps a little harsh on Moss because that dude has shown as much ability to get open as anyone so far, it's pretty spot on otherwise. I don't ever notice Morgan getting wide open. He doesn't have the moves. But he is a gritty runner so as long as he's on the roster Morgan should be out go to guy on screen passes. Garçon isn't consistent, just as Tripp said.
So our base offense should include garçon, hankerson, Reid and mix in Helu more to mask passing downs. But it still begs the question why we aren't seeing bootlegs and roll outs.

Either way, coaching is a big issue, the biggest IMO. Why don't mike/Kyle recognize who can help RG the most by making plays? And why the reversion back to pre 2012 football? Now RG isn't even good enough for what you gave cousins to work with? C'mon.

skinsfan69
09-17-2013, 08:48 AM
What I see is a QB that isn't good enough right now to run this type of offense. He needs a running game to be successful. Sorry but that scares me a little bit. We saw some of this last year... when teams knew we had to pass, we couldn't convert 3rd downs. Right now he needs to get help from the coaches, as others have said...get him on the move a bit more, spread out the field formation wise and run some quicker passes, run the no huddle...things he did well at Baylor. Not only does RG3 need to pick it up, but you too Kyle.

Green Monk Machine
09-17-2013, 09:46 AM
I think we just need to dump the pistol and RO. It got is in this mix and isn't going to help Rob one bit. We have TE's, good receivers, and RB's. they must be the offense, not a guy coming off knee surgeries. Pound the ball, use these 2 te sets and go more traditional b/c rob is not physically dynamic anymore. That's all it is. If he can't run, he needs to stop RO, if he can't step in throws, he needs to be taken off the field. The season is underway and Kirk is more able. That will never happen though, not b/c it doesn't make sense but b/c Shanny/Rob are too hard headed. Shanny can never be wrong and he doesnt scold his son Off Cord. afterall the shanny plan has always been 2 part- get kyles career advanced and get Mike into HOF. theyve already gone all in despite any sort of longterm costs to fans and franchise before/after Rob. We do not win with the RO this year. Other teams can, b/c they protect their QB (and certainly don't send him downfield for a pass against the steelers, thanks Kyle).

CRedskinsRule
09-17-2013, 10:06 AM
I think we just need to dump the pistol and RO. It got is in this mix and isn't going to help Rob one bit. We have TE's, good receivers, and RB's. they must be the offense, not a guy coming off knee surgeries. Pound the ball, use these 2 te sets and go more traditional b/c rob is not physically dynamic anymore. That's all it is. If he can't run, he needs to stop RO, if he can't step in throws, he needs to be taken off the field. The season is underway and Kirk is more able. That will never happen though, not b/c it doesn't make sense but b/c Shanny/Rob are too hard headed. Shanny can never be wrong and he doesnt scold his son Off Cord. afterall the shanny plan has always been 2 part- get kyles career advanced and get Mike into HOF. theyve already gone all in despite any sort of longterm costs to fans and franchise before/after Rob. We do not win with the RO this year. Other teams can, b/c they protect their QB (and certainly don't send him downfield for a pass against the steelers, thanks Kyle).

How does dumping the pistol help? You have actually seen a lot more teams incorporate it, because it gives qbs a split second more time to read the defenses.
As for the RO I think all the RO teams wanted to get a feel for how the refs were going to call it and how defenses were going to adjust.

No matter what this week the offense needs to come out on track.

firstdown
09-17-2013, 10:09 AM
So what your saying is teams are not affraid of RGII's arm unless he is able to run which I agree. He is not a pocket passer and needs his legs to be affective.

SouperMeister
09-17-2013, 10:19 AM
So what your saying is teams are not affraid of RGII's arm unless he is able to run which I agree. He is not a pocket passer and needs his legs to be affective.Nobody could function as an effective pocket passer behind this line. Griffin threw plenty of accurate intermediate to deep passes from the pocket last year. This notion that he cannot become excellent in the pocket is bunk. That said, with his lack of protection, he better start using his legs to extend plays, or this will be a very long season.

firstdown
09-17-2013, 10:24 AM
I wasn't unhappy with the offensive approach against Green Bay like I was against Philadelphia, but it does strike me as similar to the plan when Grossman was our quarterback in 2011. It's very pass-centric, and we probably don't have the passing game to put that much of our hopes and dreams on it.

We ran the ball much better against GB than against Philly, but we didn't stick with it, part because of the score, part because I think that's a Kyle tendency.

More diversity in the offense cannot hurt, but some of that has to fall on the defense to keep us in the game a little longer.

GB pretty much stuffed the run in the 1st half giving up 52 yards which at first sounds not too bad. Problem is 32 of those yards cam on one play where we didn't score. Take that away and we had 20 yrds rushing at 2.85 per play.

Chico23231
09-17-2013, 10:25 AM
So its Santana and Josh Morgan killing the team? ummm no. I would agree to an extent that the coaching staff is not doing a very good job with the offense.

RG3 throwing mechanics are not right, your not watching if you dont see it. His accuracy stat is most tell'ing and this has nothing to do with Moss, Morgan. He is missing bad on some throws. Some high, some timing and touch, and some just plain long. Sometime he stands tall and delievers the ball in the face of pressure, sometimes he gets happy feet and doesnt. He's inconsistent. The thing is, it all can be fixed.......if he is truely healthy. If he knee is not, he will continue to struggle.

SmootSmack
09-17-2013, 10:38 AM
It's probably less debunking than offering an alternative explanation. I was hard on the myth-creators where it was warranted, because a lot of the myths were started by people who should know better.

I wouldn't expect anyone to be less skeptical of my explanations themselves, but people know that I've gone through the game in a way that many haven't, so there's where the credibility comes from.

What does that even mean?

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