2007 Uncapped Year

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BrudLee
03-20-2005, 01:29 PM
The NFL is so much stronger than Baseball and Hockey - unlike those sports, they have revenues.

CRT3
03-20-2005, 02:47 PM
I don’t want to be a nay-sayer here but 2007 is still 2 years away. Do you guys really think that after watching the NHL debacle and maybe contraction in baseball that the NFL and the players will allow this to happen?

I mean at some point both sides will realize, were going to all be millionaires regardless if its 50 million or 45 million over the length of the contract.

Isn't one of the biggest fears that owners whose team makes more money like our own Dan Snyder plus the two Texas owners, don’t want to share his revenue with low earners like the Colts? SO if there is a strike, it could be Dan’s fault. Hopefully we just win a Superbowl next year and calm down Dan’s ego. Actually unlike the NHL, the NFL has a incredible Brodcast deal. And all NFL teams are making serious money unlike baseball. Some teams could do better if they just realized the extended revenue stream like Danny.

Will be interesting to see what happens.

CRT3
03-20-2005, 02:48 PM
Wow...I could stay in a Holiday Inn Express for a month and that wouldn't come close to going to the same High School[probably called Danny Snyder High School now] as Danny. Not to sure what that means, please elaborate.

CRT3
03-20-2005, 02:53 PM
They wanted both parties to extend the agreement early so the last capped year is tough on both the players and the teams. The % shared with the players drops 1% in 06 so what was a 5M increase in 05 would only be 3.5M in 06. Also if there's no extension by 3/1/06 they won't be able to prorate about 20M of roster bonuses in 06 and all guaranteed money in contracts after 06 will count in 06. I think the cap chart here is missing 1.5M of extra hits in 06 from restructures done with Harris Ramsey and Noble and about 5-6M of guaranteed money due to be paid after 06 which would count against the 06 cap if there is no extension.

The last capped year which is 06 will not be tough on the owners by any stretch. I don't believe you are correct on the 20 mil roster bonuses but I could be wrong. Will have to look into that one. As far as the escalator on bonus such as the potential for Brunnel to earn, that is based on the offense improving and this bonus does not count against the cap. Canuck can help us out with that one but we have already discussed this very issue and it is pretty agreed that does not count against our cap.

Pocono
03-20-2005, 08:10 PM
CRT3...Ignore the first part it was just a bad joke.

If there is no CBA extension by 3/1/06 new signing bonuses will only be allowed to be prorated over 4 years and the first year salary will have to be large because the CBA only allows increases in salary from year to year that are 30% of the 06 salary not including signing bonus. Teams that routinely do restructures to pass cap hit futher back into the contract won't be allowed to do that because that will be shifting the hit from the final capped year into uncapped years which is specifically what they are trying to prevent.

Their are likely to be earned[LTBE] incentives which are basically incentives that were met or would have been met the preceding season and they count against the cap right away and there are unlikely to be earned[ULTBE] incentives that weren't reached the past year and they don't count right away but do count if they are earned. At the end of the season the league balances a team's ULTBE incentives that were met with the LTBE incentives that aren't met and either debits or credits the team's cap the following year with an adjusted cap total. Since Brunell's incentives are based on improved O ranking they are ULTBE but with him sitting on the bench they will be acheived and come do in 06 along with a nice escalator for Ramsey. It would be interesting if Crazy Canuck could see just how many escalators and incentives could come due. If Brown signs a contract loaded with incentives that could worsen the situation.

CrazyCanuck
03-21-2005, 04:12 PM
Since Brunell's incentives are based on improved O ranking they are ULTBE but with him sitting on the bench they will be acheived and come do in 06 along with a nice escalator for Ramsey.

I think Brunell's incentives are ULTBE but are designed in a way that he will likely make at least one of them, so his 2006 cap number will likely go up.

It would be interesting if Crazy Canuck could see just how many escalators and incentives could come due. If Brown signs a contract loaded with incentives that could worsen the situation.

I wish I could but finding this information is very hard if not impossible. If anyone has a good place to find info like this let me know.

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