Skins v Eagles post game thread

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Bucket
09-11-2013, 02:00 AM
This is the biggest question to be answered this season.
If RG3 can run a conventional offense, he will have a long career. If not, we will have a very short term window for a Super Bowl run

Ironically, this injury could be the best thing that ever happened to him, IF it forces him to go through his progressions and deliver accurate passes from the pocket....we shall see what the long term future of the Skins will be in yr 2 of RG3. I think the guy is really good..but we haven't seen RG3 without his speed win games yet.

That's not true.. RG3 can run the East Coast offense and have a long career if he protects himself.

The Goat
09-11-2013, 02:38 AM
This is the biggest question to be answered this season.
If RG3 can run a conventional offense, he will have a long career. If not, we will have a very short term window for a Super Bowl run

Ironically, this injury could be the best thing that ever happened to him, IF it forces him to go through his progressions and deliver accurate passes from the pocket....we shall see what the long term future of the Skins will be in yr 2 of RG3. I think the guy is really good..but we haven't seen RG3 without his speed win games yet.

This is an excellent post. Whether RG can be successful in a more traditional offense isn't all on him tho. Oline personnel and scheme are bigger concerns to me than RG's skill, work ethic etc etc.
Three years in it doesn't look like Mike can put together a line to pass protect against today's defenses. The issue was just masked last season.

mredskins
09-11-2013, 09:34 AM
This is an excellent post. Whether RG can be successful in a more traditional offense isn't all on him tho. Oline personnel and scheme are bigger concerns to me than RG's skill, work ethic etc etc.
Three years in it doesn't look like Mike can put together a line to pass protect against today's defenses. The issue was just masked last season.

I wonder what our record would have been in the last two meaningful games the Skins have played (SEA/PHI) if Cousins had started.

I also wonder when you factor in injuries if Cousins is not the better long term option at QB over RGIII. Just food for thought.

firstdown
09-11-2013, 09:50 AM
To ask RGIII to be a traditional QB would be like asking Payton to be a running QB. You can find a balance but he will never be "pocket" QB.

skinsfaninok
09-11-2013, 10:05 AM
Aaron Rodgers isn't just a pocket passer neither is Romo, Kaepernick , Wilson..

NC_Skins
09-11-2013, 10:12 AM
Seriously? He beasted last season. Why would you want to change something that works? That's taking a hatchet to where you need a screwdriver.

Is it for safety purposes or does he want to be more of a pocket passer, only run when necessary type?

Do we know this or is what we saw last night more of them playing scared?


Do we know this or are we inferring things from all the drama following his injury?


To answer you all, this is based off the information from HTTR24/7(LL56). He's the guy that knows all the inside stuff and has said that was the situation. Didn't like the training wheels on him, and didn't really want to run the read option. This was right around the bye week when our team was doing a nose dive. (before any knee injury)

donofriose
09-11-2013, 10:15 AM
RG3 was a great pocket passer at Baylor, in fact arguably the best pocket passer in college football that year. He didn't just run read options at Baylor all day. It was a spread offense with a heavy emphasis on the passing game, specifically from the pocket.

He can pass from the pocket, he as shown both in the NFL and in college he can. NO NFL QB can pass from the pocket when their OLINE is not blocking consistently. He was never comfortable stepping up to pass against the Eagles. Even Manning and Brady struggle when that happens. It has been one game. Let us not act like RG3 all of a sudden became a QB that can only run the read option. He can do anything a quarterback would be asked to do.

NC_Skins
09-11-2013, 10:15 AM
So he'd rather be blindsided in the pocket vs. seeing everything clearly in front of him while running the ball? Personally, I thought he looked safest last season when he was running out in open space. All he had to do was use the rules to his advantage and get down or run out of bounds. Pretty simple.

If he gets hurt this year, it's going to happen on a bad hit in the pocket. This notion that the pocket's safer is BS. Look how the Eagles blitzed with no threat of the read option. The Skins hardly got blitzed at all last year.

I think you are reading too much into it. I don't think Robert is going to stop scrambling and making plays, nor will they stop running Robert all together via designed draws.

donofriose
09-11-2013, 10:16 AM
I wonder what our record would have been in the last two meaningful games the Skins have played (SEA/PHI) if Cousins had started.

I also wonder when you factor in injuries if Cousins is not the better long term option at QB over RGIII. Just food for thought.

Probably both losses. Especially Seattle. The Skins couldn't run the ball or stop the run against both teams so I would imagine Cousins wouldn't have done very well either.

The Goat
09-11-2013, 11:10 AM
I think you are reading too much into it. I don't think Robert is going to stop scrambling and making plays, nor will they stop running Robert all together via designed draws. I think he just wanted to move away from the RO as a base offense.

That's really interesting to me, and encouraging about RG. He's a smart guy.

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