Steelers @ Redskins (Pre season game 2)

I am not in support of Grossman over Cousins or RGIII. Grossman over PW for the third QB spot? In a heartbeat.

"PW looked like RG3 running the scheme minus Mach 2 speed at running." ... and minus any of the qualities that make an NFL passer. Did you even read the breakdown? The guy can't complete a pass that has to travel more than 20 yards in the air.

PW sucks. Sucks much worse than Grossman. He's barely the equal of Beck or Brennan.

WOW, completely thought you were talking about Grossman all the way up to the last sentence. Limited? How? PW looked like RG3 running the scheme minus Mach 2 speed at running. I saw little difference The types of plays Rg3 ran last year and what PW was running in both games.

Grossman on the other hand looked to be running a basic offense, basic drop and throw with a lot less "option". Plus he's as slow as molasses.

Funny that we are only talking about the 3rd QB spot and funnier that everyone seems to have forgotten the attrociousness we call Grossman.

Personally I'll take anyone over Grossman just to make sure he is not in any form an option if they need QB #3. I'm really shocked and suprised we are having this discussion. I knew there were the few Grossman lovers but the amount of beloved support baffles me.

In other words: I hate Grossman so I'm just going to naturally say that anyone is better than him. And I'll make ignorant observations like 'I see Pat White running so that must be the same offense that RG3 was in, because he ran too'. I'll ignore the actual passing element to the offense RG3 was in last year. And I'll overlook that Pat White almost never went through his progressions, while Rex often did. And the fact that Grossman had a much better game against Pittsburgh than White did? Doesn't matter.

WOW, completely thought you were talking about Grossman all the way up to the last sentence. Limited? How? PW looked like RG3 running the scheme minus Mach 2 speed at running. I saw little difference The types of plays Rg3 ran last year and what PW was running in both games.

Grossman on the other hand looked to be running a basic offense, basic drop and throw with a lot less "option". Plus he's as slow as molasses.

Funny that we are only talking about the 3rd QB spot and funnier that everyone seems to have forgotten the attrociousness we call Grossman.

Personally I'll take anyone over Grossman just to make sure he is not in any form an option if they need QB #3. I'm really shocked and suprised we are having this discussion. I knew there were the few Grossman lovers but the amount of beloved support baffles me.

To the bolded... Sounds like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning.

I think its safe to say that if we are relying on Grossman or White as a starter that we are in trouble. Its the third string QB. Neither are going to win consistently against starting defenses.

WOW, completely thought you were talking about Grossman all the way up to the last sentence. Limited? How? PW looked like RG3 running the scheme minus Mach 2 speed at running. I saw little difference The types of plays Rg3 ran last year and what PW was running in both games.

Grossman on the other hand looked to be running a basic offense, basic drop and throw with a lot less "option". Plus he's as slow as molasses.

Funny that we are only talking about the 3rd QB spot and funnier that everyone seems to have forgotten the attrociousness we call Grossman.

Personally I'll take anyone over Grossman just to make sure he is not in any form an option if they need QB #3. I'm really shocked and suprised we are having this discussion. I knew there were the few Grossman lovers but the amount of beloved support baffles me.

I'm not even sure what you're watching.

WOW, completely thought you were talking about Grossman all the way up to the last sentence. Limited? How? PW looked like RG3 running the scheme minus Mach 2 speed at running. I saw little difference The types of plays Rg3 ran last year and what PW was running in both games.

Grossman on the other hand looked to be running a basic offense, basic drop and throw with a lot less "option". Plus he's as slow as molasses.

Funny that we are only talking about the 3rd QB spot and funnier that everyone seems to have forgotten the attrociousness we call Grossman.

Personally I'll take anyone over Grossman just to make sure he is not in any form an option if they need QB #3. I'm really shocked and suprised we are having this discussion. I knew there were the few Grossman lovers but the amount of beloved support baffles me.

WHat planet are you watching games from? Haha. PW is NOT running the same offense Bob runs. He runs the option aspect of it, albeit not as well but pretty good, but does not run the pass-offense at all. That's somewhat important since the two together make it all work.

Redskins defense: What we've learned - NFC East Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/54788/redskins-defense-what-weve-learned)

Redskins offense: What we've learned - NFC East Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/54772/redskins-offense-what-weve-learned)

WOW, completely thought you were talking about Grossman all the way up to the last sentence. Limited? How? PW looked like RG3 running the scheme minus Mach 2 speed at running. I saw little difference The types of plays Rg3 ran last year and what PW was running in both games.

Grossman on the other hand looked to be running a basic offense, basic drop and throw with a lot less "option". Plus he's as slow as molasses.

Funny that we are only talking about the 3rd QB spot and funnier that everyone seems to have forgotten the attrociousness we call Grossman.

Personally I'll take anyone over Grossman just to make sure he is not in any form an option if they need QB #3. I'm really shocked and suprised we are having this discussion. I knew there were the few Grossman lovers but the amount of beloved support baffles me.

They run the system that fits the QB and thats called good coaching. If you listened to Gruden the other night he was pretty impressed on how the coaching staff called the plays to match his abilities. He also stated how Grossman was a 2nd string QB that been there and done that sitting in the 3rd spot. Look what other teams have for back up QB's and I think you will see we are better off then most.

Tyler Polumbus is painful to watch play RT. The reason he still has a job, much less a starting one at a key position for a division winning team, is completely beyond me.

I feel we need a lot of help and great play from or RT and secondary to even compete.Polumbus is pretty awful, but in the larger context of guys who the Redskins started for multiple seasons (and multiple coaching staffs) after it was obvious they simply could not handle the speed of the NFL game, I'm not sure Polumbus would be in the top five.

Rabach, McIntosh, Sellers, and Hall would be that Mount Rushmore. And I don't think Polumbus has jumped Jamaal Brown or Ryan Torain quite yet.

We should keep that kid Jose Gumbs on the roster instead of DeJon Gomes. I watched the replay of the game last night and he really was all over the field. Good speed and hard hitter, exactly what we need for a run supporting safety.