MTK
08-14-2013, 06:46 PM
Yup it's always on Goodell.
Clinton Portis sues NFL over concussions.MTK 08-14-2013, 06:46 PM Yup it's always on Goodell. Skinzman 08-14-2013, 07:08 PM I think the older players have a point. The NFL 20-30 years ago and older trotted the players back out there within a few minutes of having a concussion. The original law suits were about the NFL studying concussions and hiding that info from the players because the players not playing was bad for the NFL. But players that have played recently have had enough information about short and long term damage from head injuries. I think the older players are making a mistake by allowing the newly retired ones to join the lawsuit. They knew the risks and played for millions over working in the private sector for $50k or less. Green Monk Machine 08-14-2013, 07:19 PM Yup it's always on Goodell. With the help of the owners and NFPLA, it sort of is- his agenda and show. I don't think it can be argued against that he has expanded the nfl product but in so doing its partially intended to be more exciting with higher scoring games and appealing to wider markets of kids, women, and the world. Personally I think Thrusday night football, London games, talk of 18 game season, partial blame for rule changes that effect kickoffs, lowering helmet, celebrations, imposing cap penalties, and the change from laid back Taligliabeau to ruling with an iron fist and being an NFL Sheriff doesn't help his cause to like him or not judge him b/c football shouldn't become soft. I like defense. CRedskinsRule 08-14-2013, 07:41 PM With the help of the owners and NFPLA, it sort of is- his agenda and show. I don't think it can be argued against that he has expanded the nfl product but in so doing its partially intended to be more exciting with higher scoring games and appealing to wider markets of kids, women, and the world. Personally I think Thrusday night football, London games, talk of 18 game season, partial blame for rule changes that effect kickoffs, lowering helmet, celebrations, imposing cap penalties, and the change from laid back Taligliabeau to ruling with an iron fist and being an NFL Sheriff doesn't help his cause to like him or not judge him b/c football shouldn't become soft. I like defense. Goodell isn't the one suing for injuries sustained while playing. Nearly all these rules that "soften" the game, are being driven by the lawsuits of former players. The owners/Goodell are not suddenly humanitarians, they simply don't want to lose in court, and if they don't show attempts to protect and inform the players, they will lose. Lotus 08-14-2013, 08:19 PM Yup it's always on Goodell. Goodell gave me a concussion in an incident involving a skateboard and a pony. SolidSnake84 08-14-2013, 08:28 PM Funny how these players weren't suing when they were getting game checks. It's probably because most of these bums don't want a real working job after football so they just try and get money the easy way I agree with this post 100%. I think it is deplorable and pathetic that CP joins a long list of mostly broke and disgruntled ex-players. I saw CP's name pop up on total access this evening, along with Cadillac Williams, and Daunte Culpepper. I think it is more than a coincidence that all three players sucked at the end of their careers and it was obvious from listening to them speak that none of them was going to be able to do anything post-football. I had heard that Portis was slightly better with his money than other ex-players who were in the lawsuit. I don't challenge Portis' number, but consider that he only was a full time starter for like 4 seasons due to other injuries, and that means he was clocking in at least 3 concussions a year. Most all of them say that they have injury problems now that will prevent them from living a normal life. I wonder more if the fact that they don't know how to do anything else, most did not complete their education, and most are penniless, is what prevents them from living a normal life. Our very own Pat White sued the NFL for "career ending injuries", but lo and behold he dropped the lawsuit when the Redskins came calling. And folks, it's a miracle, because now the guy who had all these problems and couldn't live a normal life is seemingly doing fine and back in the game.... Green Monk Machine 08-14-2013, 08:48 PM Goodell isn't the one suing for injuries sustained while playing. Nearly all these rules that "soften" the game, are being driven by the lawsuits of former players. The owners/Goodell are not suddenly humanitarians, they simply don't want to lose in court, and if they don't show attempts to protect and inform the players, they will lose. Well if that's the case, the nFL has the money to continue football and use the proceeds towards better pensions. If money is coming in where does it go? I'm not waiting all year for flag football. Changing a game and making it softer/safer takes away from the experience of the fan. Stat records change. I mean if players get hurt so be it. Hope they stayed in college, got a degree, saved $, and can live off what the union has agreed upon as far as medical coverage. Being a pro athlete is still a better living than not. Nowadays the defense isn't even allowed to hit a "defenseless receiver" but that receiver has protection to catch the ball and score and threaten the oppositions success? I see that as misbalanced. Guys lose jobs if receivers score. Idk, I feel like this emphasis to grow the nfl and be more appealing serves a majority that doesn't even appreciate or understand the sport if high scoring and non exististent defense is what is thrilling. I'm off my soapbox. I'm going to go back outside and yell at cars driving too fast on my street. MTK 08-14-2013, 09:01 PM I don't think CP has money issues. GoSkins! 08-14-2013, 10:16 PM Sorry, but part of the reason for the insane high salaries that players get paid is because of the risk. Football really isn't that unique. Several other jobs have high "danger" pay too; and you can't take the pay, understand the risk, and then expect more money for taking that risk after the job is done. I don't think people would pay as much to watch, nor would players get paid as much to play, non-violent (think flag) football. Players have the money to buy the most protective equipment money can buy and no one forces them to take the job if they don't want to risk long term injuries. Maybe next, soldiers can start suing the military. NC_Skins 08-14-2013, 11:06 PM Sorry, but part of the reason for the insane high salaries that players get paid is because of the risk. Football really isn't that unique. Several other jobs have high "danger" pay too; and you can't take the pay, understand the risk, and then expect more money for taking that risk after the job is done. I don't think people would pay as much to watch, nor would players get paid as much to play, non-violent (think flag) football. Players have the money to buy the most protective equipment money can buy and no one forces them to take the job if they don't want to risk long term injuries. Maybe next, soldiers can start suing the military. That isn't why their salaries are high. Risk has nothing to do with it. The demand for the sport has everything to do with it. Baseball, basketball, and golfers make just as much (if not more) than football players and their salaries are guaranteed. What their sport doesn't have is really any risk of permanent injuries to the brain. If risk had anything to do with salaries, NASCAR drivers would be the highest paid people in any sport. People enjoy the brutal violence within the game, and have so since the days of the gladiator in the Roman coliseum. |
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