Redskins Training Camp Thread 2.0

So...to get away from RG3, what about the defense? Looked pretty bad against the run. Do we have an issue here? Is this the year Fletcher falls off a cliff? Maybe the pass rush improves but the run D suffers.

I'd mostly chalk it up to being the first preseason game. They don't do any game planning and the schemes are basic.

I'd mostly chalk it up to being the first preseason game. They don't do any game planning and the schemes are basic.

Well there was a game plan for Seattle and they ran for 200+ yards. Just something to look at.

I personally think people need to stop trying to neuter him. If interviews are the worst thing he does, im good with that. He is not out drinking and driving or causing trouble. As Redskins fans, we arent used to the media clamoring over one of our guys. So what if he eats it up, that just allows people like Alfred to just be Alfred.

Completely agree.

I never understood this mentality by fans that players aren't allowed to have an opinion. Do they say the right things all the time? Of course not. But that's what makes things interesting. And in the end all that really matters is what they do on the field, and he's got that covered pretty well so far in his career.

Well there was a game plan for Seattle and they ran for 200+ yards. Just something to look at.

Yeah that's true. Just saying it's hard to take much from a preseason game. Most of their yards came on 2 big runs. There were some breakdowns that likely wouldn't happen under the normal circumstances of a regular season game is all.

And who can forget Chaz Rhindhardt?

I'm glad he moved on if only so we didn't have to see his name butchered anymore.

What makes you say he's selfish? I don't see it.

there are a few instances...

1. The playoff game against Seattle, going back into the game when he knew he was hurting the team. He thinks he's better on one leg than a healthy Cousins. LOL. Sorry, that entire Seattle deal is on you RG3, not the coach. Yet he says..."we all made mistakes"

2. Your dad keeps running his mouth and he says..."well I can't control what daddy says"...really bro? So you and your dad gotta run your mouths to the media? I think he wants his dad to keep speaking.

3. "Well coach gave me his word if I do everything he'll start me week one, so as long he he does that we're good" ...I doubt MS said that and to me that's showing up your coach.

Again, I think he should be out there, but MS is the boss. So just go by that plan and stop running your mouth. As I said, if he plays like shit week one, and is outplayed by Michael Vick, I know what's coming...." I needed more reps in pre season".

Seems to me that the head coach has the final say in whether a player stays in a game or not. Sometimes a player needs to be protected from himself, just like Shanahan is doing now with easing him back in.

So how is the Seattle game all on RG3 exactly? If Shanahan is "the boss", he has to share in the responsibility. In fact a case could easily be made that Shanahan is more to blame.

Seems to me that the head coach has the final say in whether a player stays in a game or not. Sometimes a player needs to be protected from himself, just like Shanahan is doing now with easing him back in.

So how is the Seattle game all on RG3 exactly?

It wasn't all on him but he knew more than anyone that he coudln't play, yet he told the coach he could. Gotta pull yourself out in that situation.

I think the playoff game vs. Seattle is still haunting us so to speak. It was a major blunder that called coach's and player's judgment into question. IMO there's a fair bit of posturing now as a result i.e. Mike playing it extra safe to look like RG's health is number one concern, after the vast majority of onlookers said Mike was a fool to not have pulled RG in that game. RG is going 110% as usual but posturing a little bit also.
Regardless, the real proof comes in the pudding, when the season begins. Will RG protect himself better by playing smarter? And will the Shanahans scheme away from running him so much, as the article a few weeks pointed out even though injuries didn't come on designed runs RG took the majority of his punishment on designed runs. That's really all I care about, what happens Sept - Feb.

It wasn't all on him but he knew more than anyone that he coudln't play, yet he told the coach he could. Gotta pull yourself out in that situation.

You just said it was on him lol

Sorry, that entire Seattle deal is on you RG3, not the coach


Yeah he should have pulled himself just like Cutler. Yeah nobody would have had a problem with that.

Did Jordan ever pull himself from a game? How about Favre when he was getting mauled against the Vikings? That's just not the way these guys are wired. And as a coach of these guys it's awfully hard to make that call. Especially when you've seen them pull games out of their asses in the past even when banged up.