Taylor or Winslow

Not to provoke any more of a discussion than this warrants BUT selling seats doesn't translate into wins.

I dunno. I just tried to let it die.

I thought about letting it die. But here's the thing. If you're going to accuse someone here of something so severe as making a racist comment you better show definitive proof of it, or don't bother. And I think I can say, without a doubt, that neither Matty nor any other moderator is going to allow anyone to freely make racist comments or accuse someone of making racist comments.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but all I'm saying is let's keep our disagreements civil.

exactly. how many years has vick been in the league, and how many times has he carried the falcons to the super bowl? please answer that. plus, he gets injured a lot, cuz of all the time he spends running. im not saying he's overrated, but what im trying to get across is that teams know how to plan for him. look at the playoff game vs. st. louis. then look at the playoff game vs. philly. did it look like he had a bad game against philly. no, it looked like philly planned for him and their plan worked.

I know. I also look at when the person joined and realize that I guess they don't know better. There's NOTHING I hate more than getting into racial discussions.

Vick is no doubt exciting. Very exciting, but he still has a lot of progression to go to become a QB. However, when you have a player with the ability to run like that it's hard to tell him to throw the ball away, when you know he can make something out of nothing. Vick has great games, then the next week not so good. When you have DVD you're doing okay.

I also didn't see anything racist. I'm sorry, wewhite, what percentage of Redskins players are white? It's a small minority, I base my criticism on the play I see -- not what color players are. I'm sure everyone on the board is the same way. Ray Lewis is over-rated and Michael Vick, while a very good player, is a bit overrated as a QB.

wewhite, i think you are the racist. he was just stating his opinion, then you bring racism into it because he mentions two black players and no other players. okay, the percentage of players in the league is black, and most playmakers are black, but you are the only guy on this forum and probably anywhere who points out that the majority is black. look how many white playmakers are in the league. peyton manning, brian urlacher, tom brady, how many are there. you need to keep your racist comments to yourself, because you are the only person here who thinks that way.

The IQ level just dropped about 10 points on this board with this thread.

why? are you saying that my iq level dropped too. im just saying what i was thinking.

how about we just go back to the original question on this thread

Indeed...soooooooooooooooooooooooooo Taylor or Winslow? :)