Darrell Green does not support Redskin name change

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Chico23231
10-31-2013, 05:00 PM
So unless they put up with racial slurs (if you feel Redskins to be one is another story), they cannot capitalize on gambling like white americans do?

but im offended by gambling

SirLK26
10-31-2013, 05:32 PM
I do not think the logo is what this group finds offensive. I know the colors have nothing to do with it either. Imagine as a white person or a black person or an asian person....a team with a face from your origin....George Washington looking dude or MLK as the emblem - no problem. The nickname however is the "honkeys" or the "n&@ers"? - problem. Obviously those slang references are alot more volatile because of modern day society and racism for the most part has drawn away from the native americans and what happened to them hundreds of years ago. This particular group and handfuls of others consider redskins a slang term. Again - what if it was the palefaces or yellowskins or darkskins? I guess the real crux of the matter is how do you feel about those names? If they offend you as a white, black, or asian person than How do you justify Redskins?

Perhaps your example names are different and not as "offensive" as the name Redskins, but if there were a team with the name "Palefaces" or "Yellowskins", I wouldn't give a rat's a**. It wouldn't offend me in the least.

skinsguy
10-31-2013, 06:04 PM
So unless they put up with racial slurs (if you feel Redskins to be one is another story), they cannot capitalize on gambling like white americans do?

Are you assuming I'm not offended also by white Americans owning casinos? If so, that's a pretty racist and ridiculous thing to say.

I'm saying I think it's a contradiction to championing this Redskins thing - which is questionable at best all the while continuing to make fortunes from those with gambling addictions.

punch it in
10-31-2013, 06:52 PM
Perhaps your example names are different and not as "offensive" as the name Redskins, but if there were a team with the name "Palefaces" or "Yellowskins", I wouldn't give a rat's a**. It wouldn't offend me in the least.

Im just putting it out there - not saying im offended either. An asian person might be offended by a team called the yellowskins with a picture of an asian person on the helmet was my point. As for palefaces, well i just wanted to say palefaces.

punch it in
10-31-2013, 06:54 PM
Are you assuming I'm not offended also by white Americans owning casinos? If so, that's a pretty racist and ridiculous thing to say.

I'm saying I think it's a contradiction to championing this Redskins thing - which is questionable at best all the while continuing to make fortunes from those with gambling addictions.

Not assuming that at all but you did clearly state that "they" should shutdown "their" casinos. If you are making the point that there are greater problems in the world well than me and you are on the exact same page. Did not mean to insinuate anything.

DynamiteRave
10-31-2013, 06:56 PM
Didn't someone say Redskins wasn't about Indians actual skin color, but the red war paint they used? I dunno. I just don't see Redskins as derogatory and I'm a minority.

Although... I did find Redskin in the racial slur database... :Smoker:

The Racial Slur Database (http://www.rsdb.org/slur/redskin)

punch it in
10-31-2013, 07:00 PM
Didn't someone say Redskins wasn't about Indians actual skin color, but the red war paint they used? I dunno. I just don't see Redskins as derogatory and I'm a minority.

Although... I did find Redskin in the racial slur database... :Smoker:

The Racial Slur Database (http://www.rsdb.org/slur/redskin)

It is definitely about skin color.....

Hog1
10-31-2013, 07:26 PM
“There are so many more issues that are important for the tribe than to waste time on what a team is called. We’re worried about real things, and I don’t consider that a real thing.”

G. Anne Richardson

Chief of Virginia’s Rappahannock Tribe
This sort of realistic and rational thought has no place in a PC discussion whipped up by the ACLU.........

DynamiteRave
10-31-2013, 07:30 PM
“There are so many more issues that are important for the tribe than to waste time on what a team is called. We’re worried about real things, and I don’t consider that a real thing.”

G. Anne Richardson

Chief of Virginia’s Rappahannock Tribe
This sort of realistic and rational thought has no place in a PC discussion whipped up by the ACLU.........

I would kinda take it more seriously if it was more than just the Oneida tribe complaining but it seems the vast majority of other tribes seem to have bigger fish to fry.

skinsguy
10-31-2013, 07:32 PM
Not assuming that at all but you did clearly state that "they" should shutdown "their" casinos. If you are making the point that there are greater problems in the world well than me and you are on the exact same page. Did not mean to insinuate anything.

I said that (the shutting the casinos thing) in jest. If we're talking about shutting out and shutting down anything and everything that can be offensive then then this tribe should take a long hard look at themselves. It is proven fact that gambling has ruined families and cost lives. It's not a proven fact that the term Redskin is a racial slur. Some believe it is and some believe it is not. It's origin does not point to the use in a derogatory manner and there is documentation To back that up. When the Native. Americans themselves are not in agreement about it being a racial slur then I call BS on the whole thing. It is all a money grab by the Oneita Tribe and you guys will discover this when it's all said and done.

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