The REAL deciding Factors...

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BigSKINBauer
03-13-2005, 11:52 AM
I would also add Low Amount of Penalties/Penalty Yards

The Redskins were in the bottom three in penalties and penalty yards assessed on offense. Granted, some were ridiculously questionable pass interference calls, still as a team they need to drastically cut back on mistakes like holding, late hits, false starts, etc.

every time i think about those dumb penalties by them teamracist refs i get crazy, we lost a couple games cause of that, i can think of 3-4 big ones that could sway the game, not saying that we would win those games but geeez if we won em we would be in them there playoffs!!

THAT GREEN BAY GAME!!! WHAT was that, i could convict that ref in court undienable vedience the rest could be judgement calls but the first said portis was moving forward! He was in his two point stance getting ready to do the best play of the season. That was a season changing game, who knows

Yellow31
03-13-2005, 11:52 AM
actually ramsey's TD/INT ratio was worse this year then either of his previous two seasons...

and i agree, avoiding flagrant mental errors will definately help us win more games...
Alot of those picks came in that one game against the Giants when he came in for Brunell and I think without that one bad performance Gibbs would have put him in earlier in the season for Brunell.

MTK
03-13-2005, 11:58 AM
What exactly did Spurrier say?

BossHog
03-13-2005, 02:19 PM
Excellent post, Lifetimeskin! I couldn't agree more. Part of the deal with coaching stability with us is also Gibbs getting his groove back. I'm optimisitc. Ramsey is very much the key, though.

Yes. Very interesting. And that's what I love about sports. So many teams with different strengths and weaknesses battling it out for the championship. Yes, there are some necessities for winning games, but in no way can you expect a 'winning' formula that guarantees ultimate victory. ATL is trying to do it with Vick. IND is trying to do it putting up 55+ points a game. BAL is trying to do it by scoring more points on defense than thier opponents offense. Let's do it Gibbs way, I say. :oink:

BossHog
03-13-2005, 02:25 PM
:frusty:

IF any of you watched George Michael's "Full Court Press" last night then you heard that even Steve Spurrier told Michael that Ramsey isn't going to make it in this league.

Very damning,forboding,honest comments from someone who knows Quarterbacks.

Spurrier don't know $#!+. Has any of his hand picked U of F QBs had any NFL success? :oink:

EternalEnigma21
03-13-2005, 03:26 PM
:frusty:

IF any of you watched George Michael's "Full Court Press" last night then you heard that even Steve Spurrier told Michael that Ramsey isn't going to make it in this league.

Very damning,forboding,honest comments from someone who knows Quarterbacks.

I dont know where you were the last few years, but most people who watched steve spurriers NFL carreer would be in agreeance that he should not in anyway be considered any kind of authority on anything having to do with football on a professional level. I didnt catch the interview, but I do know that Gibbs trusts Ramsey and thinks he can develop his potential and is bringing in a great QB coach to help him along.

Ramseys season stats do not reflect the progress he made towards the end of the season, and the afforementioned td/int ratios are a direct reflection of a conservative offense that simply could not put up touchdowns, and didnt stretch the field at all.

wolfeskins
03-13-2005, 03:52 PM
can anyone name a qb that had real success in the nfl after playing in spurrier's college system ? even "ol ball coach" himself was horrible as an nfl qb.

BossHog
03-13-2005, 04:12 PM
When amateur sports fans get over the lie that great players are either drafted or signed in free agency, we will all see eye to eye. Players have to be given a opportunity to make a name for themselves. Where many of these athletes benefit from being in a system that works, few are responsible for making that system work. Will the real superstars please stand up? Think of all the great coaching Peyton Manning has had before the NFL, before Tennessee, before 'before'. Maybe Dwight Freeney was born with that wicked spin move. What player would he had been if it wasn't for Dungy? What if Freeney commited to a small division school like Christopher Newport College (hey, I would've done just that but they didn't have a football program then). Get the point? Fans. Stop looking for the 'ready made star. If Ramsey was drafted by NE, he would've won three SBs already. And then you'd be drooling all over Ramsey the FA. The only way to secure stability with our team is to develop players for our own use, whether we trade them, retain them, or not. A great team can lose a great CB like Ty Law and start a lesser known player and still win the SB. A great team can make fans weary by letting go two great starting CBs like Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent and still win thier conference. What's your excuse? :oink:

sportscurmudgeon
03-13-2005, 04:23 PM
BossHOg:

I agree with you. Here's the kind of player that drives me nuts:

You see a guy with huge levels of natrual God-given athletic abilities and then he demonstrates that he will take advice from no one. He knows everything he needs to know already and he'll do things the way it's cool for him to do them.

To use your example, suppose Dwight Freeney wouldn't take coaching from Dungy or whomever? Would he be as good as he is? NO. Would he still have those prodigious physical gifts? Yes.

TheMalcolmConnection
03-13-2005, 04:28 PM
Most definitely. People need to remain malleable. That's the reason that Taylor didn't start at the beginning of the season.

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