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lifetimeskin 03-11-2005, 10:40 PM I am not sure that our WR situation is as bad as it is being made out to be. Yes we don't have a "proven" multiple year 1K yd season guy, but what we do have is 4 guys that have played regularly. Remember the skins will still be a run oriented team, and they need speed to keep the safties back. Moss and Patten provide that. Actually, I think it is briilliant. Teams will have to keep safties back, unless they RISK the possiblity of major big plays similar to what the Pats did to the Steelers in the AFC Championship game. Yes Coles when healthy, was MUCH better than both of our new additoins, but he hasn't been healthy for a while. This whole offense is based on Portis.
I would like the skins to look at the CB position first, the DE position 2nd, and then best available player.
TheMalcolmConnection 03-11-2005, 10:58 PM Very true lifetimeskin... If we can get the secondary to respect those wideouts, Portis will have a lot of room to run after hitting the second level.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-11-2005, 11:14 PM I don't think our wide receiving corps is a disaster, but it's undoubtedly a weak point on our team. And yes, I'm aware that every team has weak points. I just took issue with the "proven" part of the assessment of our WR corps.
TheMalcolmConnection 03-11-2005, 11:16 PM Hopefully behind a much-improved line these guys will finally get the chance TO prove themselves.
Paintrain 03-11-2005, 11:53 PM This whole offense is based on Portis.
I think this is the best point that nobody has made (at least that I have seen) this week.. All the hemming and hawing and boo-hooing over the trade and our WR, we tend to forget we're still a running team. We're not trying to be the '99 Rams.. Portis & Betts are going to account for 65% of the offense in a well executed Gibbs offense.. The passing game is designed for big plays and short 3rd down conversions.. That's the way it is operating when it's at it's peak.. With Rabach, a healthy Jansen and Portis with a year under his belt knwoing the offense he could have a great year which will open up the passing game, regardless of the WR we have..
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-12-2005, 12:23 AM I would bet $100 that over 70% of the Warpathers will be asking for a new starting WR next offseason.
Any takers?
GoSkins! 03-12-2005, 12:27 AM Again, Gibbs is just filling in the blanks that he feels he needs to make his system work. He wants more speed at receiver (Moss, Patten) to open it up for Portis and hit a few long balls. Patten has better hands then Gardner, so I think that that will be an upgrade. We could definitley get better at WR, but I think we could really shore up the team more for years to come by trading down and getting more young talent.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-12-2005, 12:32 AM Again, Gibbs is just filling in the blanks that he feels he needs to make his system work. He wants more speed at receiver (Moss, Patten) to open it up for Portis and hit a few long balls. Patten has better hands then Gardner, so I think that that will be an upgrade. We could definitley get better at WR, but I think we could really shore up the team more for years to come by trading down and getting more young talent.
Considering the lack of star power in the draft this year, trading down is a good idea. Moreover, I always love the idea of hoarding draft picks. Then again, those are the very same reasons why it will be hard for us to trade down.
SmootSmack 03-12-2005, 02:08 AM This has probably been addressed somewhere in this thread, I'm just too lazy to look for it, but what about Rod Gardner?
I know the plan is to trade him, but let's just say they don't. Suppose they don't get the right offer and decide ultimately to just hold onto him. Do you bury him at the bottom of the depth chart and just let him walk next offseason? Do you make him a #1 or 2 and showcase his value possibly for a midseason trade? Clearly you wouldn't draft a receiver then, right?
And lest you think it's a lock that RG won't be here come September, from Saturday's Washington Post:
"This week, Coach Joe Gibbs said Washington is willing to keep Gardner if the club isn't satisfied with the return. And according to sources familiar with the situation, Gardner hasn't yet been dealt partly because Washington has been choosy about offers."
offiss 03-12-2005, 02:29 AM Get this into your freakin' head people! We will not be drafting a WR in the early rounds in the upcoming draft! No Mike Williams, no Troy Williamson, no Mark Clayton. With the additions of Moss and Patten along with Thrash, Jacobs, and Gibbs' reiterated favorite, McCants, why? It's more likely for us to draft a WR in the later rounds who's willing to be the return man and do the dirty work on special teams. Our draft priorities should reflect need at CB, DL, MLB, TE, in no particular order. I believe it's imperative that we trade down for a lower first rounder and a second rounder. And if we can get at least a third round pick for the Gardner trade, we should be able to fufill those needs with some great talent. How's this?
1. CB Marlin Jackson Michigan
2. DE Matt Roth Iowa
3. TE Alex Smitn Stanford
3. MLB Barrett Rudd Nebraska
4. DT Eric Coleman Clemson
5. WR Jerome Mathis Hampton (That's right! He won't be selected in the early rounds)
6. C Vince Carter Oklahoma
7. Go figure
Of course, the chips don't have to fall exactly this way. As every selection garners consideration of drafting the best player available that fills your need. :oink:
If either William's or Edward's is there when we pick were taking taking 1 of them! Patten was the #4 reciever for the Pat's this past season, and Moss was being demoted from #1 to #3 those are the fact's, the only way we trade down is if both are gone.
I want to know where all the big time Lavar supporter's are? If we keep yapping about a DE obviously nobody has any real belief that Lavar will be able to pressure the QB? And if he is everything everyone here say's he is we will pressure the QB as well as anyone. If we were the #3 D without Lavar we should be able to better that with him, In which case improving 1 of the best defenses in the league at the expense of 1 of the worst offenses in the league is just ridiculous.
Jackson, Mathis, and Carter are good pick's, but good luck getting them in the round's your presenting, only if we trade down and take Jackson in the first rd. will we get him, I would like to add Vincent Jackson WR to that list, only if we miss out on the big 2, then and only then if we know we can get a #1 reciever in the second rd. do we look to take Jackson in the first after we trade down, and a backup center/guard to groom is more of a necessity right now than a DE.
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