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skinsnut 06-26-2013, 09:59 PM If cut Rex might not want to retire, a team might take him just to learn our playbook.
This could be true.
I remember the Giants did this when we cut someone several years back. I think it was because we our season opener was against them. During the season, teams would be unlikely to take up a roster spot just to sign White or Rex to learn our playbook.
If I were the Skins...i'd release them very early or very late to protect against this risk. I see only the Eagles as a team that would be interested in this. But since they have such a QB controversy...I doubt they would do it...because no team would ever admit to sign a QB for preseason only to spy a playbook.
Other early opponents are GB, Lions, Raiders.
I don't think they'd do it either since they have tape.
The team to spy would be the Eagles since they have a new offense...if I were the Skins GM...I would pick up an early Eagle's offensive cut...hopefully a QB or WR.
Remember, Coughlin did this to us and won 2 SBs with the Giants...he is a clever coach. Shanny is no dummy but I don't know if he has ever done this in his years. Anyone know?
It is arguable that Zorn did this to the GMen too.
Coughlin suspects Redskins' motives after signing ex-Giants QB Woodson - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8126fa6c/article/coughlin-suspects-redskins-motives-after-signing-exgiants-qb-woodson)
And Arrington in 06 apparently gave Coughlin the Redskins Playbook
"He said he even gave a copy of the Redskins' playbook to Giants Coach Tom Coughlin."
Giants' Arrington Gets in the Mood (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/05/AR2006100501218.html)
artmonkforhallofamein07 06-27-2013, 01:29 AM If cut Rex might not want to retire, a team might take him just to learn our playbook.
All he made last year was around a million, would that be a bad salary to absorb into the coaching staff.
Of course Grossman didn't even get a sniff this offseason or last. So he could be done and brought on as a coach so he had a job. Of course he said he made plenty of money sometime in either this offseason or last so he may not want a career in football anymore.
SBXVII 08-23-2013, 08:57 PM Wow, Can't understand why I'm considered ignorant? or the discussion? This is what this website is all about isn't it? people discussing their opinions, sharing news, and just talking? Now if your opinion is not the popular one threads get closed. Hmmm.
So I've come here to the very thread the discussion was started for.
If you don't want talk or read about it.... don't come right?
I find it amazing how I show stats and prove PW has a better passer rating this preseason 57% to RG1 53% and for whatever reason people are still saying RG1 is a better passer. Ok.
Yes RG1 did lead a team to the Super Bowl. Congrats to him, so tell me what he has done lately? over the last 2 yrs? Maybe, just maybe PW was in the wrong scheme in Miami and that is why he failed. Maybe now that he is in a similar offense he used in college and soared, just maybe he will shine. Plus he's not older then dirt.
I'm really suprised people are even talking about RG1's throwing ability. Isn't that what led to McNabb and us taking RG3 in the draft? Look RG1 might be able to pass but he throws to the wrong people too often.
JoeRedskin 08-23-2013, 09:18 PM Pat White cannot get the ball downfield. Pat White cannot run through progressions. Pat White requires the offense to be limited to a run-option game with a single receiver patterns. He has a 3.8 yard/attempt ratio in preseason against scrubs!!
The Shanahan offense IS NOT THE COLLEGE OPTION THAT WHITE RAN IN COLLEGE!!!
You keep making this assertion and it is wrong, wrong, wrong. It is the very reason I posted the article in the other thread.
Yes - Your continued assertion that White is an NFL caliber QB at any roster depth is ignorant. I say that with all kindness and respect to you as a person.
mredskins 08-23-2013, 09:30 PM Rex would have to basically die to lose his roster spot to Pat White
End thread.
Chico23231 08-23-2013, 09:31 PM I'd like to see pw make it somewhere, don't think this is the team where he gets that chance. He is not what we need at this time. 3, kc and a proven vet who knows the system is what this team needs to succeed.
JoeRedskin 08-23-2013, 09:46 PM I'd like to see pw make it somewhere, don't think this is the team where he gets that chance. He is not what we need at this time. 3, kc and a proven vet who knows the system is what this team needs to succeed.
I got nothing against the guy. He's just not an NFL caliber QB.
SmootSmack 08-23-2013, 10:37 PM Rex's passer rating in game 1 of the preseason was 81%, in game 2 it was 84%
Pat White went from 70% to 19%
But you want to talk completion percentage. Ok. But Rex is averaging close to 7 yards a pass, pushing the ball downfield. Pat White is averaging under 4 yards. There are 30 RBs in the NFC this summer who are averaging at least as many yards per carry.
Plus Rex has more game day experience when it counts, knows the offense better, and has the respect of RG3, Kirk and the rest of the players.
There's also the fact that Pat White was drafted 4 years ago for the sole purpose of being a gimmick player. And 4 years later he still can't be much more than that.
I'd also add that Pat White's not even having as good a season as Richard Bartel or Kellen Clemens had in recent summers
But I could skip all of the above. The worst, the absolute worst, most ignorant, most uninformed argument in favor of Pat White is to claim that Pat White's running ability makes him a better fit for our scheme than Rex Grossman. The offense is certainly enhanced by RG3's running ability. But it's about so much more than that. This offense can't function if RG3 doesn't have a good arm, if he can't make the right reads. For Pat White the offense has been simplified greatly where the "read" part of read-option is basically non-existent.
I think it's fun to watch Pat White and I wish him well but he's nowhere near ready to play and we don't have time to develop someone who's already had 4 years
JoeRedskin 08-23-2013, 11:28 PM ... and that is "End Thread".
ArtMonkDrillz 08-23-2013, 11:29 PM Rex's passer rating in game 1 of the preseason was 81%, in game 2 it was 84%
Pat White went from 70% to 19%
But you want to talk completion percentage. Ok. But Rex is averaging close to 7 yards a pass, pushing the ball downfield. Pat White is averaging under 4 yards. There are 30 RBs in the NFC this summer who are averaging at least as many yards per carry.
Plus Rex has more game day experience when it counts, knows the offense better, and has the respect of RG3, Kirk and the rest of the players.
There's also the fact that Pat White was drafted 4 years ago for the sole purpose of being a gimmick player. And 4 years later he still can't be much more than that.
I'd also add that Pat White's not even having as good a season as Richard Bartel or Kellen Clemens had in recent summers
But I could skip all of the above. The worst, the absolute worst, most ignorant, most uninformed argument in favor of Pat White is to claim that Pat White's running ability makes him a better fit for our scheme than Rex Grossman. The offense is certainly enhanced by RG3's running ability. But it's about so much more than that. This offense can't function if RG3 doesn't have a good arm, if he can't make the right reads. For Pat White the offense has been simplified greatly where the "read" part of read-option is basically non-existent.
I think it's fun to watch Pat White and I wish him well but he's nowhere near ready to play and we don't have time to develop someone who's already had 4 yearshttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2aoqqQYS41r0hqfjo1_400.jpg
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