Around the NFL 2013 Offseason (Version 5150)

I don't think that is very fair to Reed. They may be similar players in the field, but off of it there is nothing that says Reed is anything like him. As far as this being a reason for players to be careful, well I think this players problems go back to highschool.

But yeah proper law abiding citizens shouldn't be involved in murder cases as a good rule to live by.

I didn't mean anything against Reed nor did I mean to imply that Reed and Hernandez have similar personalities. But Hernandez is his "elder" in a sense and thus may have been a role model to Reed. Hopefully Reed sees him, and the need to avoid off-field problems, in a new light.

Police, along with some search dogs, went through Hernandez's home.

Aaron Hernandez's house searched by Massachusetts police - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000214068/article/aaron-hernandezs-house-searched-by-massachusetts-police)

Search yields apparent “evidence bags” from Hernandez’s home | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/23/search-yields-apparent-evidence-bags-from-hernandezs-home/)

If he's as smart as Ray then, he'll find Jesus and everyone will forget about the fact he killed someone. :D

People tend to quickly forget things like that (see Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth) when it comes to NFL players.

Deacon Jones Award to recognize NFL's sack leader - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9413843/deacon-jones-award-recognize-nfl-sack-leader)

Let's hope Orakpo or Kerrigan win a couple of Deacon Jones awards in the future.

while the truth isnt know about the exact extent of hernandez' involvement, it kinda irks me that ppl are bring up ray lewis.

to my understanding, ray didnt have any physical or verbal contribution to the stabbing death but was in the "getaway"car ... did he have more of an involvement?

hernandez' involvement as it appears now seems to be much much more direct and culpable.

if someone knows something i dont (i honestly dont know all the details of ray's case except that he settled the civil suit out of court), can you let me know?

Deacon Jones Award to recognize NFL's sack leader - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9413843/deacon-jones-award-recognize-nfl-sack-leader)

Let's hope Orakpo or Kerrigan win a couple of Deacon Jones awards in the future.

Maybe I'm being cynical but why did Jones have to pass away before they named this award after him? Could have been a great opportunity for current players to connect with a legend on an annual basis.

while the truth isnt know about the exact extent of hernandez' involvement, it kinda irks me that ppl are bring up ray lewis.

to my understanding, ray didnt have any physical or verbal contribution to the stabbing death but was in the "getaway"car ... did he have more of an involvement?

hernandez' involvement as it appears now seems to be much much more direct and culpable.

if someone knows something i dont (i honestly dont know all the details of ray's case except that he settled the civil suit out of court), can you let me know?

Well, there are similarities and, yes, there were some allegations that Lewis was part of the physical brawl that led to the two murders. Certainly, his friends were part of it, had purchased knives the day before with Lewis present, and they all sped away from the crime scene in Lewis' limo after the murder - not stopping until they got to Baltimore. Further, Lewis' white suit from that night was never found. So there was a lot of circumstantial evidence about Lewis' part in the murder but nothing concrete. As I recall, the general consensus was that, if he didn't actually murder the two men, he knew damn well who did, helped them escape and help destroy material evidence. B/c of changing stories, the lack of eyewitnesses and the lack of physical evidence, no one was ever convicted for the two murders. (See: As we celebrate Ravens Ray Lewis, don't forget the murder victims - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-01-05/sports/os-mike-bianchi-ray-lewis-0106-20130105_1_ray-lewis-jacinth-baker-joyce-lollar))

On the other hand, and as it appears right now, Hernandez and three men walked into his house, gunshots were heard and, at some point subsequent, Hernandez, two men and a corpse left the house. While, just as with Lewis, there is a certain level of uncertainty (did Hernandez commit the murder, watch someone commit the murder or find out after the fact and help cover it up), the level of uncertainty is no where near what was present in the Lewis case.

On the other hand, and as it appears right now, Hernandez and three men walked into his house, gunshots were heard and, at some point subsequent, Hernandez, two men and a corpse left the house. While, just as with Lewis, there is a certain level of uncertainty (did Hernandez commit the murder, watch someone commit the murder or find out after the fact and help cover it up), the level of uncertainty is no where near what was present in the Lewis case.

The shots happened at his house?

The shots happened at his house?

That's what I understood but I might be mistaken.