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That Guy 08-13-2013, 06:49 AM And technically the vast majority don't make it. Especially those whose position starts with "3rd string"
yeah, and how many has he been to?
i mean seriously, what's your point? that he's a 3rd stringer that hasn't been to a pro-bowl, and that's supposed to be impressive in some way?
KI Skins Fan 08-13-2013, 09:47 AM When we project the roster, I think that we sometimes get hung up on the position list which causes us to pigeon-hole the more versatile players. Specifically, I'm referring to Jordan Reed and the debate about how many TE's and WR's the Skins will keep.
I think the answer to this quandry is Jordan Reed. IMO, he is a true TE/WR hybrid. He reminds me of one of my favorite NFL players, Anquan Boldin. The Skins should be able to split him wide where he can overpower CB's the way Anquan does or keep him in tight where he can work against safeties. In essence, by having Jordan on the roster, I think the Skins will have both a 4th TE and a 6th WR in the same person. Isn't that one of the reasons that teams seek out versatile players?
Perhaps we'll learn more about how the Skins plan to use Reed and what he capable of doing in the next exhibition game.
Skinzman 08-13-2013, 10:59 AM yeah, and how many has he been to?
i mean seriously, what's your point? that he's a 3rd stringer that hasn't been to a pro-bowl, and that's supposed to be impressive in some way?
I could be wrong but I think where he is going is that Paul stands a chance to make the pro bowl just like LoAx did, as a special teamer. LoAx was never the greatest positional player, yet very few wanted to lose him. He had value even as a non starter. Also in Pauls case, his main issue is catching the ball. And by most accounts, he is doing a much better job in TC doing that. If he can catch the ball, he can cause match up problems for defenses. Bigger than most safeties and faster than most LB's.
That Guy 08-13-2013, 03:16 PM but davis is a better version of that at TE/catching. i don't think paul is really much of a threat outside of blocking, at least not from anything he's shown so far.
and getting a pro bowl is a lot different than having a few of your team's fans thinking you might be able to get one.
it just feels like more pre-season overhype. Zo showed a lot more versatility and production. he earned his contract. maybe paul will too, but so far, he's only shown decent blocking ability and some special teams work. Zo did that and played some OG, DL and LB pretty decently... and Zo's teams stuff made some highlight reels too.
Green Monk Machine 08-13-2013, 06:47 PM I probably have the same as everyone but...
QB- RG, KC
HB- ALf, Helu
FB- DY
WR- pg, jm, lh, sm
TE- fd, JR, NP
LT- TW, TC
LG- KL
C- WM
RG- CC
RT- Tyler, Pashos
De- SB, JJ, Baker, KG
DT- bf, Nield
OLB- Rak, ry, Jax, Jenkins
MLB- LF, PR, Barnett, kehl
CB- DH, JW, Bigg,Craw, Minn, Amer
FS- Rambo, Pugh
SS-bw, RD, gomes
Kai, sav, Sundberg
My questions remain:
Can Thompson or Jamison unseat Royster and what long term plans do we have for them??
5th WR between Henderson and Stallworth
Paulsen stays if...an OL can play 2 positions.
Has LeRibeus ate himself out of a job over Hurt or Gettis?
Is Gettis more valued over LeRib's G/C ability?
Is Matthews able to play G/C and bump one of them out?
Does the team value NT Brace over keeping OLB Tapp or does that last roster spot go to a RB, TE, IOL???
I like this roster but tough decisions.
PS- Lewis, Dawson, Briscoe?, Nixon, muckelroy.
KI Skins Fan 08-14-2013, 10:35 AM I probably have the same as everyone but...
QB- RG, KC
HB- ALf, Helu
FB- DY
WR- pg, jm, lh, sm
TE- fd, JR, NP
LT- TW, TC
LG- KL
C- WM
RG- CC
RT- Tyler, Pashos
De- SB, JJ, Baker, KG
DT- bf, Nield
OLB- Rak, ry, Jax, Jenkins
MLB- LF, PR, Barnett, kehl
CB- DH, JW, Bigg,Craw, Minn, Amer
FS- Rambo, Pugh
SS-bw, RD, gomes
Kai, sav, Sundberg
My questions remain:
Can Thompson or Jamison unseat Royster and what long term plans do we have for them?
We'll see Thompson and Jamison in the second preseason game. Then we'll know a little bit more about them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Thompson get stashed on IR before the final cuts.
5th WR between Henderson and Stallworth
Aldrick Robinson should be the 5th WR. I doubt that either Henderson or Stallworth will make the team.
Paulsen stays if...an OL can play 2 positions.
Paulsen is a lock. He is our blocking TE. He is much bigger than the other TE's.
Has LeRibeus ate himself out of a job over Hurt or Gettis?
I wonder the same thing about LeRibeus. He had better find some motivation or he might not last in the NFL.
Is Gettis more valued over LeRib's G/C ability?
I doubt that because versatility is a prized commodity for a reserve OL.
Is Matthews able to play G/C and bump one of them out?
So far he's only played C. I guess we'll both be watching to see if he plays any at G in the preseason. If he does, that could be bad news for some other player.
Does the team value NT Brace over keeping OLB Tapp or does that last roster spot go to a RB, TE, IOL???
In the first preseason game, Tapp was used inside on passing downs. He played inside next to Kerrigan with Orakpo and Brandon Jenkins on the outside. That looked formidable to me. I think they like Tapp.
Brace is behind Cofield, Baker, and Neild. I doubt that he makes the team.
I like this roster but tough decisions.
PS- Lewis, Dawson, Briscoe?, Nixon, muckelroy.
Long shot; Needs to get a chance and show special ability as a PR/KR; Gone; Keeper but may end up on Practice Squad; Maybe.
I don't mean to seem like a know-it-all. The above are just my opinions expressed in shorthand.
I also like the way the roster is shaping up. The tough decisions just mean that the Skins are adding more good players to compete with the incumbents. That's the way to build a winner. Hail!
Green Monk Machine 08-14-2013, 01:46 PM ^^ yeah man. Good input. Totally forgot about Robinson. Having tough roster decisions is a good problem to have. Still a lot of work to be done definitely looking forward to next offseason to plug all remaining holes.
Preseason came so fast but the 1st game didn't satisfy me.
skins89moss 08-18-2013, 11:41 PM So much for WR Henderson making the 53 man roster . We have enough vets at the WR position so I see the WR corp as the following : 1. Garçon 2. Morgan 3.Moss 4.Hankerson
5.Robinson PS Lewis,Dawson.
LB's Rak Fletcher Kerrigan Riley Tapp Barnett Bryan Keil Jackson (4game susp)Robinson (IR)Brandon Jenkins ( can stand up or hand in the dirt) MuckleRoy I think PS if not eligible he will be cut.
SirLK26 08-23-2013, 07:05 PM Now that we're in the middle of the preseason and have got good looks at the players, I figured I would predict how I think the 53-man roster will look.
Offense
Quarterback: Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Rex Grossman
Halfback: Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr., Chris Thompson
Fullback: Darrell Young
Tight-end: Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen, Jordan Reed (I don't think we'll carry 4 TE's; battle's between Paulsen and Paul)
Wide Receiver: Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Skye Dawson, Aldrick Robinson
Tackle: Trent Williams, Tom Compton, Tony Pashos, Tyler Polumbus
Guard: Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Maurice Hurt
Center: Will Montgomery, Kevin Matthews
Defense
Defensive end: Darryl Tapp, Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, Kedric Golston, Stephen Bowen
Nose tackle: Barry Cofield, Chris Baker (Is the minimum 3?)
Inside linebacker: London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Jeremy Kimbrough, Marvin Burdette
Outside linebacker: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Brandon Jenkins, Rob Jackson
Cornerback: DeAngelo Hall, David Amerson, Richard Crawford, Chase Minnifield, E.J. Biggers
Safety: Brandon Meriweather, Baccari Rambo, Jose Gumbs, Reed Doughty, Jordan Pugh (Maybe Tanard Jackson?)
Special teams
Kicker: Kai Forbath
Punter: Sav Rocca
Long snapper: Nick Sundberg
CultBrennan59 08-23-2013, 07:12 PM Now that we're in the middle of the preseason and have got good looks at the players, I figured I would predict how I think the 53-man roster will look.
Offense
Quarterback: Robert Griffin III, Kirk Cousins, Rex Grossman
Halfback: Alfred Morris, Roy Helu Jr., Chris Thompson (or Royster, depending on Saturday and next thursdays performances)
Fullback: Darrell Young
Tight-end: Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen, Jordan Reed (I know we'll carry 4 TE's; battle's between Paulsen and Paul)
Wide Receiver: Pierre Garcon, Josh Morgan, Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Aldrick Robinson
Tackle: Trent Williams, Tom Compton, Tony Pashos, Tyler Polumbus
Guard: Kory Lichtensteiger, Chris Chester, Maurice Hurt
Center: Will Montgomery, LeRebieus even though he's been awful
Defense
Defensive end: Darryl Tapp, Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, Kedric Golston, Stephen Bowen
Nose tackle: Barry Cofield, Chris Baker (Is the minimum 3?) Chris Neild
Inside linebacker: London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Bryan Kehl, Nick Barnett
Outside linebacker: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Brandon Jenkins, Rob Jackson
Cornerback: DeAngelo Hall, David Amerson, Richard Crawford, Chase Minnifield, E.J. Biggers
Safety: Brandon Meriweather, Baccari Rambo, Jose Gumbs, Reed Doughty, Jordan Pugh Tanard Jackson
Special teams
Kicker: Kai Forbath
Punter: Sav Rocca
Long snapper: Nick Sundberg
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