Lotus
08-26-2013, 04:21 PM
I agree -> If done for salary cap purposes, he must be cut before final roster. If he is being retained as a short term insurance policy, then we take the hit and move on when we feel the youngsters can take his spot on the field.
We could cut him, hope he clears waivers and try to resign. Not sure how he would feel about that. Who knows.
Tough call that would be a done deal if Crawford still on the roster.
We essential already did that by asking him to take a big pay cut. The next step seems like, "Bye bye Josh."
JoeRedskin
08-26-2013, 04:52 PM
We would just try to redo his contract if that was the case, although we have already done that once this offseason with him. Given Crawfords injury, I doubt he is going anywhere now.
Just for future reference. After 4 years in the league, the player doesnt get put on waivers. Its an outright cut and he would be free to sign anywhere as a free agent. Saves the vets from having to worry about being claimed somewhere they dont want to be as well as not making them wait a day before starting to negotiate with the other teams.
Good info. Thanks.
JoeRedskin
08-26-2013, 04:53 PM
^^ Is that true for all season or just for the 75 and 53 cut-down dates?
Skinzman
08-26-2013, 05:16 PM
^^ Is that true for all season or just for the 75 and 53 cut-down dates?
I thought that was all year, but after checking, I am finding multiple sources saying that is actually up until the trade deadline. After the trade deadline, they are put through waivers regardless of how long they have been in the league. None of the sources are official sources but I did find multiple sources all saying the same thing.
Here is one of the sources I found explaining it if you want to check it out.
Baltimore Ravens News | How Does the NFL’s Waiver System Work? (http://russellstreetreport.com/how-does-the-nfls-waiver-system-work-2/)
warriorzpath
08-27-2013, 06:17 PM
I think Josh Wilson is on the bubble. I wouldn't be surprised if he played a lot in the last preseason game. He seems to still be recovering and it's affecting his play. The only problem with cutting him is the lack of veterans at the position. Not many people seem to know what this really means; it means that the inexperienced player (in this case, db) hasn't seen much to be able to take advantage of an opportunity when the situation presents itself. For example, Rambo's near interception against the Bills. He didn't know what he had until it was too late. The problem with Wilson is - he seems to be recovering and probably couldn't take advantage of an opportunity because of this. Thus the extended playing time in the last preseason game- to provide more film to evaluate if this is the case.
warriorzpath
08-27-2013, 06:24 PM
I think Chris Thompson is a lock on the roster because he would be a starter at punt returner and a possible contributor at running back. One of his returns reminded me of Brian Mitchell with the way he caught the punt in full stride.
That Guy
08-27-2013, 07:12 PM
wilson's not on the bubble. not with crawford on IR.
best cuts from today:
S Kenny Phillips (Giants) - injury issues
KR/PR Josh Cribbs - knee might be messed up
TE Mike Shannahan (Bucs) - yes please!
warriorzpath
08-27-2013, 07:25 PM
wilson's not on the bubble. not with crawford on IR.
best cuts from today:
S Kenny Phillips (Giants) - injury issues
KR/PR Josh Cribbs - knee might be messed up
TE Mike Shannahan (Bucs) - yes please!
We'll see if Wilson is on the bubble if he doesn't play well against the Bucs.
And Kenny Phillips got cut from the Eagles.
warriorzpath
08-27-2013, 08:12 PM
Sometimes you have to look deeper at a player's situation. Josh Wilson has a lot of cons against him: he didn't have a good year last year, he's' coming off an injury (which will make him playing better this year less likely), and he hasn't look so good so far this year. The Bills attacked him on the first play and got called for interference. Being called for PI isn't bad, but how badly he played on that play was; if you see where the ball landed, it wasn't really catchable but Wilson played it so badly that the refs had to call it. It was evident that the Redskins were down on him last year, that's why they cut his salary. The Redskins may give him another chance if he doesn't play well against the Bucs by putting him on the PUP list, but this is assuming that someone else doesn't play well while he's gone.
The Redskins best play is to look at the waiver wire and look for a quality cb. Best bets are cuts from the Seahawks or Niners.
GTripp0012
08-27-2013, 08:58 PM
We were desperate enough to bring Hall back at a lower number, so I really don't think Wilson was ever that close to the bubble.
I mean, he was on the bubble in the "if everything goes perfect we save this much salary" way. But realistically, he was never not going to be in the starting lineup.
I'm not sure either Hall or Wilson are in the team's long term plans, but the closest thing I've seen to suggest that Wilson was in trouble was when a couple of the guys on the beat (Keim and Campbell) threw his name out there as a potential surprise cut -- only after being asked about surprise cuts, though.
We would have kept six corners before we released a starter.