PrismmmMMMMmmmm, good! NOT!

If Bush were still in office, don't you think he'd be pushing the same agenda, or maybe worse?

I'm not in favor of what's going on, it's just funny to hear everyone up in arms about this now, where was all the fuss in 2001?

Where was it in 1979?

https://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm

If Bush were still in office, don't you think he'd be pushing the same agenda, or maybe worse?

I'm not in favor of what's going on, it's just funny to hear everyone up in arms about this now, where was all the fuss in 2001?

Just reference any of The One's pre-office statements on this kind of thing. It doesn't seem to be such a concern now.

Where was it in 1979?

https://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo12139.htm

The use of the word 'Foreign' threw everyone off?

Just reference any of The One's pre-office statements on this kind of thing. It doesn't seem to be such a concern now.

Welcome to politics. Where politicians say what they need to say to get elected, then reality hits when they get in office and they see what's really behind curtain #1.

I for one consider Snowden a hero rather than traitor. He gave up a cushy life, a nice paycheck, and his security to call out our government for abrogating the Constitution. I think we all owe Snowden a debt of gratitude.

I for one consider Snowden a hero rather than traitor. He gave up a cushy life, a nice paycheck, and his security to call out our government for abrogating the Constitution. I think we all owe Snowden a debt of gratitude.

I agree.

I agree.

Now you're agreeing with Lotus?!? I dunno Rat ... I am really, really getting scared.

Let's have a prayer circle where we discuss the competing ethical considerations of Mr. Snowden's actions. You in?

Make it a drum circle and I may turn up.

I'm confident that even the most irascible of forum opponents can occasionally find common ground. It's making me question my mental state, I have to say. Bad enough I agree with you, heinous that Lotus and I are holding the same position. Next SS will appear rational or likeable.

We typically can't even agree on how to be fans of the same team.

Solar flare?

On the topic at hand, individual liberties are slowly but surely being strangled out in the name of security and tolerance. Soon enough, the only thing we will be "secure" from is the ability to voice unpopular or divisive thought while being subject to the Kafka'esque brutality of an overly bureaucratic government with the added random evil of the mob unrestrained by legal process. All in the name of public safety and tolerance.

With apologies to Rush, the day is coming when Congress shall pass a noble law and all will be kept equal by hatchet, axe, and saw.

Outstanding song reference JR.

I agree.

So at what point would a computer judge/jury not find him guilty based on the emotional belief that giving up safety/security for country outweighs the purely analytical rule of law that says he told national secrets?

no need to respond, I Robot answered it already.