PrismmmMMMMmmmm, good! NOT!

^I dont think you can relate the 2 situations as same. Very different time and the media coverage actually would have provided some sort of security for Snowden.

I actually think if he does end up in South America, its gonna be much more dangerous for him. I think our government well have "more options" in dealing with him. But hey, he doesnt fear the consequences.

I think what the public doesnt understand is that passed information to China and Russia puts a lot of people lives at risk around the globe working to keep us safe here. Not just Americans either.

^I dont think you can relate the 2 situations as same. Very different time and the media coverage actually would have provided some sort of security for Snowden.

I actually think if he does end up in South America, its gonna be much more dangerous for him. I think our government well have "more options" in dealing with him. But hey, he doesnt fear the consequences.

I think what the public doesnt understand is that passed information to China and Russia puts a lot of people lives at risk around the globe working to keep us safe here. Not just Americans either.

Really? How much access has Bradley Manning had? Do tell.


Exactly how are people's lives at stake? You are parroting the exact same statement as many of these governmental agencies/politicians. This isn't a situation where operatives are being outed. Hell, Cheney outed a CIA agent and got Haliburton stock increases, not a jail sentence.

Do you want to stay in a country where the Government is going to do all it can to quiet what you are saying. And I am not excluding any possibilities when I say quiet. Someone posted a picture/clip of Pres. Obama when he was candidate Sen Obama blasting Pres. Bush for going after whistleblowers. If Pres Obama wanted to show a difference, he could have offered immunity from prosecution to Snowden, then let the story play out. That would have been change to believe in. But now nearly 6 years after candidate Obama vowed to close Guantanemo, it is still open (for good or bad). We are still in Afghanistan (losing lives every day) and our government still operates secret courts with no oversight or true constitutional guarantees.

This isn't a tirade against Pres Obama, but a statement that there are parts of this government that are secretive, unchecked and unconstitutional, and that is a danger to the US way of life.

Snowden is a creepy white cracker and gets what ever is coming to him.

^I dont think you can relate the 2 situations as same. Very different time and the media coverage actually would have provided some sort of security for Snowden.

I actually think if he does end up in South America, its gonna be much more dangerous for him. I think our government well have "more options" in dealing with him. But hey, he doesnt fear the consequences.

I think what the public doesnt understand is that passed information to China and Russia puts a lot of people lives at risk around the globe working to keep us safe here. Not just Americans either.

This is probably where you and I just roll our eyes and let the anarchists run the asylum

This is probably where you and I just roll our eyes and let the anarchists run the asylum

Exactly what does this have to do with anarchists? This isn't about whether government is bad.


The issue at hand here:

1) We have a Constitution that provides for the protection of people's privacy through the 4th amendment.

2) We have a government currently breaking this amendment.

3) We have a informant that rats out the governments illegal activities.

4) We have our politicians backing said program even though they never attended NSA security meeting.

5) We have a president that in 2008 lauded that we needed people within our government to out such illegal activities, yet is now trying to charge such a person with espionage.


This has nothing to do anarchy.

I think you missed the joke, but anyhow bowing out of the conversation. Always regret joining threads in this forum in the first place

I think you missed the joke, but anyhow bowing out of the conversation. Always regret joining threads in this forum in the first place

Apparently it did Whoooooooooosh right over my head. Damn you!!

Why do you regret joining in on a conversation that is important to our society and culture as a whole? It would be one thing if people were flipping their wigs or trying to crucify you.

Apparently it did Whoooooooooosh right over my head. Damn you!!

Why do you regret joining in on a conversation that is important to our society and culture as a whole? It would be one thing if people were flipping their wigs or trying to crucify you.

It's not why I joined this site, in short

It's not why I joined this site, in short

Fair enough. Neither did any of us I imagine. :P Still some downtime before things start back up in training camp.

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