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Ruhskins 07-03-2013, 11:08 AM Blame Ruhskins...... post 116.
I just made a point about revisiting our foreign policy (including our support for Isreal) so the government doesn't have to resort to illegal tactics to fight the war on terrorism. But given your response (which is typical of the majority of the people in this country) this is something that will never happen.
Chico23231 07-06-2013, 12:40 PM Venezuela, Bolivia offer asylum to U.S. intel leaker Snowden - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/americas/venezuela-snowden/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Thats great South America supporting traitors. Well lets see Snowden try to get there, hopefully we get him before.
Giantone 07-06-2013, 04:32 PM Venezuela, Bolivia offer asylum to U.S. intel leaker Snowden - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/americas/venezuela-snowden/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Thats great South America supporting traitors. Well lets see Snowden try to get there, hopefully we get him before.
Calling Seal team 6,calling Seal team 6.....over.:)
NC_Skins 07-07-2013, 03:30 PM Venezuela, Bolivia offer asylum to U.S. intel leaker Snowden - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/05/world/americas/venezuela-snowden/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
Thats great South America supporting traitors. Well lets see Snowden try to get there, hopefully we get him before.
Why are people calling him traitors? Wouldn't the traitors be the people actually going against the Constitution? (our government) I'm boggled as to how you all think it's ok for our government to disregard the 4th amendment.
The real traitors are the people that support the government's actions.
CRedskinsRule 07-07-2013, 06:17 PM Why are people calling him traitors? Wouldn't the traitors be the people actually going against the Constitution? (our government) I'm boggled as to how you all think it's ok for our government to disregard the 4th amendment.
The real traitors are the people that support the government's actions.
You know why its so easy for the government to pull the wool over the country's eyes, because they have so many sheep to sheer.
say the phrase national security and a huge herd of sheep come running over offering lots of wool in the form of excuses and tirades and exaggerated threats.
There are other catch phrases too, each one designed to set off pavlovian responses in the target audience.
today we are fighting the blue army, tomorrow it may be the red.
Chico23231 07-07-2013, 07:31 PM I dont know any hero that blows the whistle and then runs to China and then Russia for help. Shoulda stayed in the states and told the story.
NC_Skins 07-07-2013, 08:34 PM I dont know any hero that blows the whistle and then runs to China and then Russia for help. Shoulda stayed in the states and told the story.
They aren't going to let him tell any story here in the states. If you notice, the media has been on par with the government. It's not shocking to see who runs the media when they want to.
CRedskinsRule 07-07-2013, 09:14 PM I dont know any hero that blows the whistle and then runs to China and then Russia for help. Shoulda stayed in the states and told the story.
Do you want to stay in a country where the Government is going to do all it can to quiet what you are saying. And I am not excluding any possibilities when I say quiet. Someone posted a picture/clip of Pres. Obama when he was candidate Sen Obama blasting Pres. Bush for going after whistleblowers. If Pres Obama wanted to show a difference, he could have offered immunity from prosecution to Snowden, then let the story play out. That would have been change to believe in. But now nearly 6 years after candidate Obama vowed to close Guantanemo, it is still open (for good or bad). We are still in Afghanistan (losing lives every day) and our government still operates secret courts with no oversight or true constitutional guarantees.
This isn't a tirade against Pres Obama, but a statement that there are parts of this government that are secretive, unchecked and unconstitutional, and that is a danger to the US way of life.
SmootSmack 07-08-2013, 02:44 AM I dont know any hero that blows the whistle and then runs to China and then Russia for help. Shoulda stayed in the states and told the story.
I agree 100% with you. I mean he told the story and then he was like I don't care if you use my real name, I'm ready to accept whatever consequences I face...and yet, here we are playing "Where In The World Is Carnen San Diego" with him
NC_Skins 07-08-2013, 01:15 PM I agree 100% with you. I mean he told the story and then he was like I don't care if you use my real name, I'm ready to accept whatever consequences I face...and yet, here we are playing "Where In The World Is Carnen San Diego" with him
Yeah, he really should have stayed around so he could be locked up in solitary confinement with nobody ever hearing a peep from him until he's convicted through our busted ass judicial system.
I think I'll take this guys advice before anybody. He should know, he was in the same situation pretty much.
Daniel Ellsberg: NSA leaker Snowden made the right call - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/daniel-ellsberg-nsa-leaker-snowden-made-the-right-call/2013/07/07/0b46d96c-e5b7-11e2-aef3-339619eab080_story.html?hpid=z2)
He would almost certainly be confined in total isolation, even longer than the more than eight months Manning suffered during his three years of imprisonment before his trial began recently. The United Nations Special Rapporteur for Torture described Manning’s conditions as “cruel, inhuman and degrading.” (That realistic prospect, by itself, is grounds for most countries granting Snowden asylum, if they could withstand bullying and bribery from the United States.)
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