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That Guy
07-02-2013, 08:05 PM
Iran has never been a democracy, in anything but name.

Past Results | Iran Election Watch (http://iranelectionwatch.com/past-results/)

you mean in like in the 1950's before the US helped bombed it out for the oil companies and put the shah in place?

724Skinsfan
07-02-2013, 09:03 PM
you mean in like in the 1950's before the US helped bombed it out for the oil companies and put the shah in place?

US fear (paranoia?) of an increasingly active Communist presence in Iran played a big part in the 1953 coup. Installing a ruler who could keep our oil needs equitable satisfied our nations capitalist interests, no doubt. I think the fear of the spread of communism, though, was what put it all into play. I'm no scholar, though, I just like reading all things Iranian history.

RedskinRat
07-02-2013, 09:51 PM
Go to the gajillion places online which talk about Palestinian Christians. Who do you think lives in Bethlehem? If you don't know that there are many Palestinian Christians, you really don't know anything about the lives of Palestinians.

I'd like a number, you seem unwilling to admit that the figures are difficult to get. You mentioned 200K although my numbers come out at 143K, a considerable difference.

You might start your education regarding Palestinian Christians here:
IMEU: FACT SHEET: Palestinian Christians in the Holy Land (http://imeu.net/news/article0023369.shtml)
Philip Farah: Palestinian Christians Against the Occupation (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/philip-farah/palestinian-christians-against-the-occupation_b_1466027.html)

I was hoping for something less shrill in its bias. I'll keep looking.

Given your resistance to recognizing a well-known fact,

<point_laugh> pompous ass

...you have allowed me to yet again point out that Israel has a HORRIFIC human rights record, oppressing Palestinian Christians and Muslims alike.

Horrific and largely false: UN Watch (http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3820041/) OIC driven BS.

The council has criticized Israel on 27 separate occasions, in resolutions that grant effective impunity to Hamas, Hezbollah and their state sponsors. Obsessed with condemning Israel, the Council in its first year failed to condemn human rights violations occurring in any of the world’s 191 other countries. In its second year, the Council finally criticized one other country when it “deplored” the situation in Burma, but only after it censored out initial language containing the word “condemn.” It even praised Sudan for its "cooperation." In its third year,

The Council’s fixation with Israel is not limited to resolutions. Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda. Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.

You can read about some of these human rights abuses here:
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights (http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/report-2013)

Can't have those pesky Israelis actually defend themselves in a meaningful way, can we?

RedskinRat
07-02-2013, 09:53 PM
I'm no scholar, though, I just like reading all things Iranian history.

It's my belief that ME sociopolitical history is the most fascinating topic. It's revolting and mesmerizing at the same time.

NC_Skins
07-02-2013, 10:48 PM
This thread is about NSA, not about ME history. Take that shit over to the ME thread. thanks.

MTK
07-02-2013, 10:49 PM
This thread is about NSA, not about ME history. Take that shit over to the ME thread. thanks.

Good call.

Lotus
07-02-2013, 11:22 PM
I'd like a number, you seem unwilling to admit that the figures are difficult to get. You mentioned 200K although my numbers come out at 143K, a considerable difference.



I was hoping for something less shrill in its bias. I'll keep looking.



<point_laugh> pompous ass



Horrific and largely false: UN Watch (http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3820041/) OIC driven BS.

The council has criticized Israel on 27 separate occasions, in resolutions that grant effective impunity to Hamas, Hezbollah and their state sponsors. Obsessed with condemning Israel, the Council in its first year failed to condemn human rights violations occurring in any of the world’s 191 other countries. In its second year, the Council finally criticized one other country when it “deplored” the situation in Burma, but only after it censored out initial language containing the word “condemn.” It even praised Sudan for its "cooperation." In its third year,

The Council’s fixation with Israel is not limited to resolutions. Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda. Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.



Can't have those pesky Israelis actually defend themselves in a meaningful way, can we?

If you read my links, you would see that I provided numbers including 200,000. If you read my links, you would find information on Israeli human rights violations from Nobel-prize-winning Amnesty International, not the OIC.

But fine, have it your way: there are 143,000 Palestinian Christians who face the same human rights violations that Palestinian Muslims face. So, to bring this discussion back to its start, we know that calling out Israel for its human rights violations has NOTHING to do with being pro-Islam, as you previously stated. Instead, calling out Israel and questioning American involvement has everything to do with justice.

Please learn about the issue before you pontificate more.

Matty and NC, I heard you. I'm done.

RedskinRat
07-02-2013, 11:24 PM
This thread is about NSA, not about ME history. Take that shit over to the ME thread. thanks.

Blame Ruhskins...... post 116.

NC_Skins
07-03-2013, 09:26 AM
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RedskinRat
07-03-2013, 09:48 AM
^ nice!

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