Giantone
02-25-2014, 07:15 PM
"Padre Pio, Italy's most-loved saint, faked his stigmata by pouring carbolic acid on his hands..."
maybe NC's not the one that needs reading lessons.
or did you mean the part were the church that makes money off his sainthood dismissed the evidence because the truth would hurt their interests? come on, man, this is weak.
I said read it because it admits the document was from the Catholic Church own archive's .It is also the only thing going against all the other eye witnesses'. I admit I don't know why I'm surprised that you guys don't believe it ,you think guys think the NRA is looking out for you .
Giantone
02-25-2014, 07:15 PM
What exactly is the "miracle" here?
Italy's Padre Pio 'faked his stigmata with acid' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1567216/Italys-Padre-Pio-faked-his-stigmata-with-acid.html)
Top 10 Astonishing Miracles - Listverse (http://listverse.com/2008/07/14/top-10-astonishing-miracles/)
Lotus
02-25-2014, 07:20 PM
I said read it because it admits the document was from the Catholic Church own archive's .It is also the only thing going against all the other eye witnesses'. I admit I don't know why I'm surprised that you guys don't believe it ,you think guys think the NRA is looking out for you .
I sure don't think that the NRA is looking out for me. But Padre Pio was a fake. His "wounds" disappeared right after death in a way that would not have happened if he truly had been bleeding. I think he was a benign pious fake: he wasn't trying to put people on, he was just trying to imitate Jesus. Nonetheless there is no miracle with him.
Giantone
02-25-2014, 07:27 PM
"Padre Pio, Italy's most-loved saint, faked his stigmata by pouring carbolic acid on his hands..."
maybe NC's not the one that needs reading lessons.
or did you mean the part were the church that makes money off his sainthood dismissed the evidence because the truth would hurt their interests? come on, man, this is weak.
Dancing Sun Miracle - Divine Mercy Hills, Philippines - YouTube
Giantone
02-25-2014, 07:48 PM
I sure don't think that the NRA is looking out for me. But Padre Pio was a fake. His "wounds" disappeared right after death in a way that would not have happened if he truly had been bleeding. I think he was a benign pious fake: he wasn't trying to put people on, he was just trying to imitate Jesus. Nonetheless there is no miracle with him.
I understand that is your opinion but not true .
Science Tests Faith - YouTube
RedskinRat
02-25-2014, 07:57 PM
G1, now I just feel sorry for you. What an awful life, to be so desperate.
Lotus
02-25-2014, 10:41 PM
I understand that is your opinion but not true .
Science Tests Faith - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9L2EYjjsc)
I would be happy if Padre Pio were a true stigmatist. But he wasn't.
Padre Pio in fact was an example of a problem with most supposed stigmatists: they get the wounds wrong. The Romans crucified through the wrist, not the palms, since hand bones are not strong enough to hold up the body. In the Middle Ages artists began depicting the wounds in the wrong place, the palms. Thus stigmatists who have bleeding hands and palms are imitating art, not the true life Jesus.
That Guy
02-26-2014, 01:05 AM
i bet you believe in the easter bunny too.
i'm sorry you're a sucker for shams and false prophets, but if you want any traction you'll have to come up with a better argument than "because i said so".
Giantone
02-26-2014, 04:32 AM
i bet you believe in the easter bunny too.
i'm sorry you're a sucker for shams and false prophets, but if you want any traction you'll have to come up with a better argument than "because i said so".
No , not really .I made my case you not only don't like it but it is irritating to you and so the Easter bunny shot comes out .
JoeRedskin
02-26-2014, 12:17 PM
It's only irritating because it is beyond idiotic but you continue to deny the stupidity.
Your the guy at work whose argument is "b/c that's how we always do it" - even though it is clear to everyone, but him, that he is wrong - and he is just making everyone's day a little harder b/c of his stupidity. It's that kind of irritating.