Giantone
01-29-2014, 07:47 PM
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01-29-2014, 07:52 PM
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Giantone
01-29-2014, 07:54 PM
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Giantone
01-29-2014, 08:01 PM
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Giantone
01-29-2014, 08:04 PM
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Lotus
01-29-2014, 09:26 PM
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The two situations are not even remotely the same.
Nixon wiretapped for purely personal gain.
Obama (and Bush before him) wiretapped to try to make the country safer. Bad policy, and I'm not defending it. But it is different in intent than Nixon's purely selfish gain.
RedskinRat
01-29-2014, 09:50 PM
Obama (and Bush before him) wiretapped to try to make the country safer.
Don't you have a Sasquatch to litter train?
The wiretapping is about control, not safety.
Now please change your avatar.
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NC_Skins
01-29-2014, 09:54 PM
The two situations are not even remotely the same.
Nixon wiretapped for purely personal gain.
Obama (and Bush before him) wiretapped to try to make the country safer. Bad policy, and I'm not defending it. But it is different in intent than Nixon's purely selfish gain.
Only the weak minded believe that shit. This has NEVER been about terrorism because this has been going on long before 9/11. This has always been about economics, politics and power.
"These Programs Were Never About Terrorism: They're About Economic Spying, Social Control, and Diplomatic Manipulation. They're About Power" Washington's Blog (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/programs-never-terrorism-theyre-economic-spying-social-control-diplomatic-manipulation-theyre-power.html)
dward Snowden wrote yesterday about mass surveillance by the NSA:
These programs were never about terrorism: they’re about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They’re about power.
Ever heard of Operation Carnivore?
Carnivore (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29)
This has NEVER EVER EVER been about protecting this country from the bad guys.
RedskinRat
01-29-2014, 09:58 PM
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Lotus
01-29-2014, 10:19 PM
Only the weak minded believe that shit. This has NEVER been about terrorism because this has been going on long before 9/11. This has always been about economics, politics and power.
"These Programs Were Never About Terrorism: They're About Economic Spying, Social Control, and Diplomatic Manipulation. They're About Power" Washington's Blog (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/programs-never-terrorism-theyre-economic-spying-social-control-diplomatic-manipulation-theyre-power.html)
Ever heard of Operation Carnivore?
Carnivore (software) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_%28software%29)
This has NEVER EVER EVER been about protecting this country from the bad guys.
You totally missed the point. Everything you listed is not about one man's personal gain. Nixon's wiretapping was.
Besides, the power vs. security opposition you make is logically fallacious since a practice can be both.