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firstdown 05-02-2013, 11:06 AM Five-year-old boy accidentally shoots, kills sister
Five-year-old boy accidentally shoots, kills sister - U.S. News (http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/01/18000685-five-year-old-boy-accidentally-shoots-kills-sister#comments)
These are same people I am suppose to listen on gun control, hell no!
Let me ask you this how to you feel about people having pit bulls.
HailGreen28 05-02-2013, 12:45 PM Let me ask you this how to you feel about people having pit bulls.Or people with swimming pools, bicycles, cars, etc. There's a name of a logical fallacy for taking a rare example and trying to apply it generally, like g-1 is trying here, but I couldn't find it.
firstdown 05-02-2013, 12:54 PM Or people with swimming pools, bicycles, cars, etc. There's a name of a logical fallacy for taking a rare example and trying to apply it generally, like g-1 is trying here, but I couldn't find it.
The only thing you can say in this case its that its some pretty stupid parents. I don't care if they thought the gun was unloaded you treat all guns as if they are loaded and keep them out of the reach off children. If they want to allow their 5 yr old to shoot a gun thats fine under very strict guidance from a parent. At no point should a gun owner allow a 5 yr old to have total control of a gun loaded or not. There is a reason why kids eating untinsals, sissors, etc... are not sharp like mom and dads.
CRedskinsRule 05-02-2013, 01:09 PM Or people with swimming pools, bicycles, cars, etc. There's a name of a logical fallacy for taking a rare example and trying to apply it generally, like g-1 is trying here, but I couldn't find it.
Fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Hasty_generalization.2C_or_converse_fallac y_of_accident)
Hasty generalization, or converse fallacy of accident
Hasty generalization: argues from a special case to a general rule. Inductive logic demands a data set large enough and qualitative enough to warrant a generalization.
Example
Argument: Every person I've met has ten fingers, therefore, all people have ten fingers.
Problem: Those who have been met are not a representative subset of the entire set.
Also called reverse accident, destroying the exception, a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter
Proper Generalization: Every person in this room has ten fingers. Therefore, all people in this room have ten fingers.
Giantone 05-02-2013, 05:00 PM Guns don't kill people. People kill people
Then who killed the 2 year old, the 5 year old that pulled the trigger or the parents that gave him the gun?
Who the F gives a 5 year old a gun?
This is more of a parenting issue than about guns to me.
Giantone 05-02-2013, 05:03 PM Don't we already have a gun thread?
We had(have) two.
Giantone 05-02-2013, 05:13 PM Who the F gives a 5 year old a gun?
This is more of a parenting issue than about guns to me.
Kinda where I was going Matty. Yes this is a gun thread but I'm interested in the mind set of gun owners who seem to be able to rationalize anything not matter how bad or how terrible.
5 year olds still believe in Santa the Easter Bunny and Elmo, some can read , some can't some are just starting school, my wife who has taught 5/6 year olds for over 27 years will tell you they can't and don't have the power to rationalize or understand their actions as it pertains to the world that surrounds' them. Example...Tiger as a kid ...super golfer could out hit most adults but he didn't know why he could. Matty I agree the parents are to blame , what scares me is that this mind set is not uncommon among gun owners.
skinsfaninok 05-02-2013, 05:51 PM Who the F gives a 5 year old a gun?
This is more of a parenting issue than about guns to me.
Amen. Parents should be charged with negligence at least
skinsfaninok 05-02-2013, 05:53 PM Kinda where I was going Matty. Yes this is a gun thread but I'm interested in the mind set of gun owners who seem to be able to rationalize anything not matter how bad or how terrible.
5 year olds still believe in Santa the Easter Bunny and Elmo, some can read , some can't some are just starting school, my wife who has taught 5/6 year olds for over 27 years will tell you they can't and don't have the power to rationalize or understand their actions as it pertains to the world that surrounds' them. Example...Tiger as a kid ...super golfer could out hit most adults but he didn't know why he could. Matty I agree the parents are to blame , what scares me is that this mind set is not uncommon among gun owners.
I have a 4 yr old at home and a 1 year old, I also own a 9MM but it's at the highest shelf I have in the house and also in a lock box so unless someone would open the box and take it down to the floor I don't have anything to worry about. This kids parents were just not paying attention or just not capable of owning firearms.
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