Bashing the Coles-Moss Deal

You know I noticed people keep saying we won't be able to sign our rookies? I read somewhere that Vinny cerrato (however you spell it) said they were budgeting this cap hit ever since Coles starting complaining. I don't think they would have done it if it meant would would lose out on other players. I also think Moss is due for a breakout year the guys only what 25? I think last year was an injury fluke and when all is said and done we may have the better reciever. That toe thing is gonna bite the Jets in the butt eventually and when it does I'll be laughing my way to the super bowl. This offeason is the start to something great. And if I have to hear about how great the Patriots are at personel decisions one more time I'm gonna puke we all know you've een reporting it for like 3-4 years now let it go!

It is a $9 million cap hit - but Coles would have been over $3 million on our cap if we'd kept him. There's a $6 million difference (give or take). Would I rather have the money? Of course - but not if it means keeping a player who very clearly is putting his personal goals above the team's goals.
"People say we're (Coles and Gardner) leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."
You are supposed to be happy when you win. If you are all about the dollar (which I hear is going around) you are supposed to be happy with a $13 million dollar bonus. If Coles was entering a contract year, and was worried about his future earnings, this is a different conversation. But he was, in fact, due a $5 million payment on his signing bonus (at the time the largest in Redskins history, and I believe the second highest for a WR ever), which he received, and was in no danger of being cut unless he demanded it.
I understand wanting to do your best, and I understand the importance of a strong ego for an athlete at this level. Coles and I have very different recollections of the season, because I believe the offense did improve over the season - the benching of Brunell being one example - and if the Washington Post article stating that not getting enough catches in the final game (a victory!!!) was "the final nail in the coffin," then I can't side with Coles. The victory is always first.

That's what I don't get, for the past few years alot of people here and in the media alike have complained how we toss money around too freely, and now that the team is showing some restraint and responsibility with the cap, we want them to outbid anybody who tries to sign our FA's.

I said it in a past thread. The Patriots have been cutting high priced talent and winning Super Bowls. And we have been paying high priced talent with sub .500 seasons.

...This is just bullshit, plain and simple. ... "Oh shit! We just took a $9M cap hit for this! ...throw in the $9M cap hit, and we basically grabbed our ankles as the Jets fucked us, right? Wrong...

I feel your pain, but dude, watch your language! :oink:

I'm sorry, but to say our cap situation (and thus our ability to re-sign players) has nothing to do with a $9 million cap hit is crazy.

Other than Smoot, who we probably would have lost anyway regardless of the cap hit, who else would we be going after right now??

Are we patiently waiting for June first cuts? :oink:

I'm sorry, but to say our cap situation (and thus our ability to re-sign players) has nothing to do with a $9 million cap hit is crazy.
Smoot said it in his reasons the Redskins couldn't match the $6 mil per guarantee for the first 3 yrs, 'It's a financial mess' because all of the previous years spending. What about the $9 mil cap hit impacted guaranteed money for the 1st 3 years? They may have been able to give a little more this year, but they had no plans to reach the contract numbers that Minn. gave him..

There are some angry people on both sides of this discussion.
DCopper04 - You can still be a reskins fan and not like the choices the redskins management have made. We do not have to have faith in the FO. He has made a few good moves and several bad moves in the past. I judge people by their track record and Snyder's is not very good.
I personally think this whole Coles trade was terrible. $9M cap is an extreme price to pay for one player who has never in his entire career been an attitdue problem, on the field or off (locker room).
I would have kept him. For those people that are so scared (ahhh!)that god forbid Coles will be a cancer in the locker room, you can tell him to stay home (sit out the year) and spend the $9M cap space we lost on a good WR, LB and CB.
To have one WR that is no longer on the team cost us $9M is a bone head move. Keep him and play him or suspend him and you are $9m richer.

... I judge people by their track record and Snyder's is not very good...I personally think this whole Coles trade was terrible. $9M cap is an extreme price to pay for one player who has never in his entire career been an attitdue problem, on the field or off (locker room).
I would have kept him...

You're criticizing Snyder but didn't he threaten Coles that he would sit him for two years? Either way we would've have had to eat the remainder of his guaranteed signing bonus, >$5 million dollars. In the meantime, we still have to put a team on the field. That was the ultimate deciding factor. Our WRs corps is no better without Coles, is it? No team can completely bank on a first round pick either. Something has to give. No Coles? Why not bring in Moss. Be satisfied you root for a team who has an owner who is willing to operate at such a expensive level to fill the stands. You don't doubt Snyder's will to win it all do you? :oink: