Snyder is getting to much credit

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Skins fan 44
03-09-2005, 01:05 AM
Although I hate to see Smoot gone I dont think it is as big as Pierce. With a good draft and with luck we can get an undrafted free agent or two we should be fine. It is hard to say at this point that we will be tough or not, but that could be a good sign since we usually win the super bowl by now in the off season.

offiss
03-09-2005, 01:05 AM
I could be wrong about this, but Ive got a feeling that people are giving Snyder to much credit. You know damn well that he had his checkbook open and could have easily signed whoever he wanted. I also think that Gibbs gets gitty sometimes and liked the idea last year of the big splash player.

Id be willing to bet that Williams never wanted Smoot or Pierce back on the team. Feel free to disagree but I think that is Williams felt like we needed those two they would be here, thats why im not to worried about it.

As a second side note, mabye Snyder is just pissed off that his little venture into Six Flags didnt work out. Him and Bill Gates are pulling out becuase Snyder is upset they wouldnt listen to and implement his idea. Mabye he was counting on cash from that to sign a few players, lol.


SC, I agree with you on Smoot, I am not sure about Pierce? It could be William's want's to get someone else in the middle with more speed, or figured that much if Pierce decieded to go.

offiss
03-09-2005, 01:06 AM
Yeah, I think that if this wasn't Gibbs/ Williams calling the shots, Pierce and Smoot would be back no matter the price. I'm not too worried about the losses.

I'm more worried about Ramsey's progression as an NFL QB and the OLine's cohesion. If those two things come through in a big way and the D drops off a bit, we will still be very successful.


ABSOLUTLY!

JWsleep
03-09-2005, 03:56 AM
I think they really did want Pierce back, and we're ready to let Smoot walk. But they clearly decided to hold the line on the cap. The Giants outbid us by a long way for Pierce, so it was either screw the cap or let him go. For the first time in Snyder's tenure, they went with the cap. All this occurred before Coles was traded.

They gave Smoot a good offer, but the Vikes nudged them out. 11 mil bonus and lots more in the 1st three years, which we couldn't do. We had already decided to let him walk, and after the Coles fiasco, they couldn't have changed their minds if they wanted to. CBs are overvalued right now in the NFL in my opinion. (Not that they aren't important, but they still cost too much. Give me a passrush anyday.)

All this bitching at the FO is kinda damned if you do damned if you don't, I think. Until we win, we are gonna get this kind of talk, as we all know. Beating up on Danny and the skins is a big industry in sports writing. Meanwhile, How are the Titans doing? And the boys just broke the bank on some aging FAs--apparently the greatest move ever. And gotta love those niners! And the Packers lost their o-line, basically. But none of them is in King Danny's league.

As far as I can tell, the good teams keep their COACHES together for a while, and get a good QB and O-line. You build the rest according to needs and availability, and you try not to break the bank on one or two guys. And if you can't pay a guy, you let him walk and move on. We're beginning to do that, I think (I HOPE!!!).

AndySkinUK
03-09-2005, 08:30 AM
I really think Williams wanted Samari Rolle the whole time. If he wanted to bring someone from the Titans he should have tried to trade for Bulluck. We could have moved him to the middle or something, he is a beast!!!!


There is still an ex Titan out there in Andre Dyson who would be a lot cheaper than Rolle and Smoot and isn't that much of a drop off.

FRPLG
03-09-2005, 09:15 AM
There are conflicting reports about how much the Giants outbid us. One story says it wasn't close and another says it almost nothing. Gibbs said it was for barely a little more so I tend to believe him. Pierec walked for money. He is dead to me.

SmootSmack
03-09-2005, 09:31 AM
There is still an ex Titan out there in Andre Dyson who would be a lot cheaper than Rolle and Smoot and isn't that much of a drop off.

I like Dyson, think he could be on the cusp of greatness. I hear he's visiting with the Seahawks though and could be close to a deal with them.

Any big names on the market for 2006?

jbcjr14
03-09-2005, 09:53 AM
Its all about the cash....plain and simple, no loyalty except to the almight greenback.

MTK
03-09-2005, 11:44 AM
Losing Smoot is no surprise and I think the team knew this day was coming and were already planning for it.

Pierce on the other hand was a surprise and I think they knew losing him was a possibility, but they probably thought chances were good they could re-sign him.

Monksdown
03-09-2005, 11:51 AM
It will be interesting to see if this changes our draft plans. It's hard to tell. Remember last year how we were all sold on Kellen Winslow. And we went defensive. Would it be a surprise to trade Gardner to someone that can put us in position to get pac-man?

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