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Chico23231
04-21-2013, 07:20 PM
I think the Saints (and Panthers) are a sub-.500 team at this point, so that is what is.

And the Falcons have a ton to prove as well. You can't take last years wins away from them, but you can point out that their point differential wasn't all that and they weren't particularly competitive in the playoffs last year after putting up a quick 20 points on the Seahawks.

The Bucs are still a huge projection at this point, but they have a ton of continuity on their roster: beyond Revis and Goldson, they changed practically nothing from last season. The NFC South is not a division of world beaters. I don't think they'd be ahead of the Falcons in a set of power rankings done today, but midseason power rankings are way more important all things considered.

I'd expect the Falcons to respond to this with an aggressive move up in the draft for a defensive player with an elite rating (Jordan or Milliner).

Yeah I believe the entire NFC South has alot to prove this year. But one thing you cant underestimate is Sean Payton + Drew Brees reunited again. Whew I tell you what, I can see the chip on Sean Payton shoulder from right here in Richmond. Its huge.

CultBrennan59
04-21-2013, 07:44 PM
Updated, and FINAL mock

1. KC Eric Fisher-they supposedly like him more
2. Jax Luke Joeckel- they like him and need a lineman to protect their awful QB
3. Oakland Shariff Floyd- they need a pass rusher, and a DT, he's both.
4. Philly Dion Jordan- Chip Kelly will probably get someone he is familiar with and they're changing to a 3-4 which is where I think Dion should play. I really contemplated Eric Fisher here.
5. Detroit Dee Milliner- depends on if they like him more or Lane Johnson.
6. TRADE San Diego Lane Johnson -Cleveland trades because their guy Milliner wasn't there
7. Arizona Johnathan Cooper- A guard, SEXY..no but seriously their OL sucked all year. Makes the most sense to get the best OLineman available.
8. Buffalo Ziggy Ansah- Again, they need a lot.
9. New York Geno Smith- Sanchez sucks, So does this QB class, but even Genos better
10. Tennessee Chance Warmack- they need a guard that can go against JJ 2 times a year.
11. Cleveland Tavon Austin- Sorry Tavon, a great talent goes to a bad team.
12. Miami Sheldon Richardson- I was between him and Lotulelei, Sheldon doesn't have the heart red flag and is more battle tested in the SEC.
13. Jets Brakevious Mingo- Rex loves pass rushers and here is the best one available.
14. Carolina Star Lotulelei- They need a good DT here he is.
15. New Orleans Jarvis Jones- They're changing to a 3-4 heres an OLB from the SEC.
16. St. Louis Kenny Vaccaro- they cut Mikell, so heres their new FS.
17. Pittsburgh Cordarrelle Patterson- they need a lot, BPA of need is a WR who is physical and can make plays.
18. Dallas Johnathan Cyprien- They need a safety, he can play both positions. Jerry supposedly loves him; another surprise.
19. New York Giants Tank Carradine- He's supposedly ranked higher now than Werner.
20. Chicago Arthur Brown- they need an MLB to replace Urlacher. I was between Te'o, brown and Ogletree. Browns the least controversial of the 3.
21. Cincinnati Alec Ogletree- athletic MLB to replace Maualuga or can play OLB should Burfict move there.
22. St. Louis DeAndre Hopkins- They need a WR, he's a big play WR
23. Minnesota Manti Te'o- they need a MLB. Te'o fits well in that locker room and division.
24. Indy Jesse Williams- he can play DE and NT, I think they choose him over Datone Jones a DE
25. Minnesota Desmond Trufant- they need a CB to replace Winfield
26. Green Bay Datone Jones- a pass rushing DE to create pressure opposite Matthews.
27. Houston Keenan Allen- its between him and Minter; offense is getting old and one demensional.
28. Denver Slyvester Williams- they need a MLB, DT, DE, CB, S. Heres the BPA of need.
29. New England Bjoern Werner- just sounds like a patriots pick.
30. Atlanta Tyler Eifert- Heres Tony Gonzalezs replacement
31. San Francisco Zach Ertz- Jim Harbaugh supposedly loves Ertz and they lost Delanie Walker.
32. Baltimore Kevin Minter- amazing how all these great players of need falls to Baltimore. Lose Ray Lewis and Dannell Ellerbe; get McClain and Minter. (Could easily see a trade occuring here though for a QB needy team that wants to pay guaranteed money and years to a QB)

artmonkforhallofamein07
04-21-2013, 07:45 PM
Freeman still makes them avg. He's just not that good IMO. I do agree about the team being overall better but NO is still better and so is ATL. Both of those teams have way better offenses and obviously QBs. Carolina could be better as well.

Seattle
SF
Washington
NyG
Gb

ARE all better than TB

I would add ATL and no to that. Even chi

GTripp0012
04-21-2013, 07:54 PM
Yeah I believe the entire NFC South has alot to prove this year. But one thing you cant underestimate is Sean Payton + Drew Brees reunited again. Whew I tell you what, I can see the chip on Sean Payton shoulder from right here in Richmond. Its huge.Sean Payton is awesome, no doubt. But if the Saints are going to be a playoff team, they're going to have to get better every week during the season, because they're far from a strong team at the moment.

The Bucs would probably be a lot closer in the eyes of many. It's a long season though.

GTripp0012
04-21-2013, 07:55 PM
As good as Revis is, its still a QB driven league. Freeman decides how great the bucs will be, not Revis. The Bucs are still not a playoff team in my eyes.

the Jets on the other hand, should they get a good QB like Geno, could benefit a lot from this trade.But throws Revis will make up a significant portion of Matt Ryan and Drew Brees' stats next year.

JoeRedskin
04-21-2013, 09:16 PM
Updated, and FINAL mock ..

21. Cincinnati Alec Ogletree- athletic MLB to replace Maualuga or can play OLB should Burfict move there.

Maualuga signed a new contract in March. Why are they replacing him?

CultBrennan59
04-21-2013, 09:34 PM
Maualuga signed a new contract in March. Why are they replacing him?

He can play OLB and on passing downs when maulugas out

CultBrennan59
04-22-2013, 01:03 AM
Well that didn't take long..Rolando McClain Arrested Again In Decatur | WHNT.com (http://whnt.com/2013/04/21/rolando-mcclain-arrested-again-in-decatur/)

Now this, was surprising.
Broadcaster Al Michaels arrested, charged with DUI in California (http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/04/21/al-michaels-arrested-for-dui/2100767/)

SmootSmack
04-22-2013, 01:08 AM
Well that didn't take long..Rolando McClain Arrested Again In Decatur | WHNT.com (http://whnt.com/2013/04/21/rolando-mcclain-arrested-again-in-decatur/)

Now this, was surprising.
Broadcaster Al Michaels arrested, charged with DUI in California (http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/04/21/al-michaels-arrested-for-dui/2100767/)

The Al Michaels news is not surprising to those "on the inside" To be honest, it's a surprise it hasn't happened before

CultBrennan59
04-22-2013, 01:20 AM
The Al Michaels news is not surprising to those "on the inside" To be honest, it's a surprise it hasn't happened before

interesting.. I wonder if this will affect his broadcasting duties this year or not.

Also I left you a question in the other thread.

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