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Bucket 03-31-2013, 01:26 AM I mean, I've seen you do it a lot.
Unless you were trolling, in case, nice job sir.
Huh? Don't confuse my legitimacy from the shit you post on the daily claiming as fact.
GTripp0012 03-31-2013, 01:29 AM Huh? Don't confuse my legitimacy from the shit you post on the daily claiming as fact.Says the only person lacking enough credibility to have ever been on my ignore list.
In seven years, mind you.
That Guy 03-31-2013, 04:56 AM i dunno... the whole kolb thing is pretty stupid too.
Giantone 03-31-2013, 08:32 AM So, so wrong. You don't get paid in the NFL based on past production. You get paid for repeatable skills.
Since winning "event" games isn't a skill, i.e. no player is more or less likely to win a single event in the future than the past, it is not valued. The abilities that translate to wins are valued, but past record (particularly team record) doesn't mean anything.
You call "winning" the super bowl and event game and in your opinion it carries no weight in their (the players) contract talks, so your saying you get paid for potential not performance, correct?
Giantone 03-31-2013, 08:35 AM I think we all (myself certainly) thought that the Giants dumped a ton of money into Eli in 2009 when he was a mediocre player on a mediocre team and couldn't understand that $100 million deal. But of course, that extension looks great now. The Giants look a lot better because of Eli's contract going forward. I think the Cowboys are hoping for the same thing, and I don't think they are going to get it.
You forget Eli had already won a bowl and a MVP of the game by then, Romo not even close.
skinsfan69 03-31-2013, 10:58 AM I can't stand it when qb's are based a W/L record. Since when does the QB go out and play against all 11 guys by himself?
skinsfan69 03-31-2013, 11:04 AM You forget Eli had already won a bowl and a MVP of the game by then, Romo not even close.
Eli didn't win it by himself. I think the Giants d-line had a lot to do with the first one. Eli did his part though..
donofriose 03-31-2013, 11:09 AM I can't stand it when qb's are based a W/L record. Since when does the QB go out and play against all 11 guys by himself?
I don't think its necessarily the win lose record, I think it is more of the fact if the quarterback puts his team in the best position to win the game. That is why I believe stats are overrated as well. Stafford/Romo/Rivers are perfect examples of players who do not always put their team in positions to win games, but they do fill up a stats sheet. I never expect a quarterback to win a game by themselves (and if they do that means they are elite, like Manning, Brady, Rogers and Brees), but I do expect a quarterback to put their team in the best position to win a game by not throwing pics at the worst times during a game.
skinsfaninok 03-31-2013, 11:22 AM I don't think its necessarily the win lose record, I think it is more of the fact if the quarterback puts his team in the best position to win the game. That is why I believe stats are overrated as well. Stafford/Romo/Rivers are perfect examples of players who do not always put their team in positions to win games, but they do fill up a stats sheet. I never expect a quarterback to win a game by themselves (and if they do that means they are elite, like Manning, Brady, Rogers and Brees), but I do expect a quarterback to put their team in the best position to win a game by not throwing pics at the worst times during a game.
Again though, u can't really put romo in that category because he leads to league in forth quarter wins since 2009. Pretty much Tony is really good until it's an elimination game which is y he's not elite, but he's also not a sorry bumb either. He's pretty good
firstdown 03-31-2013, 11:51 AM That's the problem with team sports though, like if u ask ncskins about Tom Brady's record he'll say it's because of the team around him but if u ask about romos record it's because he sucks. IMO it's about team not 1 guy, Tony has no line at all and no running game. Not to mention Griffin and our offense was owning the Dallas defense in that game.
His fumble game should have been a win against Seattle, that was basically a fluke play
That's the point its not a fluke play for him and he choked the game away. He does have the stats which is why he got this deal but they ignored his play when it really counts. I was watching him play in a golf outing on TV and he was leading by 2 going into the last hole. Guess what he did? Choked and made a double boggy. Mark Rippen won by a stroke. He does not handle preasure at all.
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