Thread Series: The case for/against Tyrann Mathieu

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Defensewins
03-27-2013, 05:44 PM
He is a talented football player that is undersized. However judging the type of player the redskins have been drafting lately, team captains, locker room leaders, on the field leaders, this guy does not fit that recent trend. So on that point alone I do not see the Redskins drafting this troubled player unless he drops to the fourth round or below and that is not going to happen.
Bottom line: we have to many needs and this draft is to deep to be taking a chance on a player with a troubled past.

Evilgrin
03-27-2013, 06:10 PM
His size shouldn't be an issue, it's whether he is meant to play safety or corner, and if his head is on straight.

Lotus
03-27-2013, 06:15 PM
He is a talented football player that is undersized. However judging the type of player the redskins have been drafting lately, team captains, locker room leaders, on the field leaders, this guy does not fit that recent trend. So on that point alone I do not see the Redskins drafting this troubled player unless he drops to the fourth round or below and that is not going to happen.
Bottom line: we have to many needs and this draft is to deep to be taking a chance on a player with a troubled past.

Well put.

SirLK26
03-27-2013, 06:24 PM
Tyrann Mathieu is a second-round talent; three potential NFL fits - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000154237/article/tyrann-mathieu-is-a-secondround-talent-three-potential-nfl-fits?campaign=Twitter_writers_brooks)

Mathieu is pretty much a no-brainer to me if he's still available in the third round.

NYCskinfan82
03-27-2013, 06:51 PM
I'm rolling with whatever the FO thinks, but if he's there in the 4th then make that phone call. We had Banks on the team for 2 years and IMO he did nothing at least this guy plays corner and ST.

donofriose
03-27-2013, 10:31 PM
Third or Fourth Round, Like Mike Mayock said from NFL Network, Redskins should not take him until the end of the third or risk taking him in the fourth.

Great instincts, even though I do not see him as a safety because I think he maxed out his frame at 186 and if he tries to build more muscle he won't have much flexibility, just be a worst Laron Landry.

But as your 3rd or 4th corner/punt returner, he is worth a late 3rd/4th round pick. I wouldn't trust him to cover Victor Cruz one on one, feel like he would beat him pretty often, like Tavon Austin, The entire Alabama receiving core, and Rogers did. But if the Redskins would be willing to play more zone, he would do well.

Like many of said, its not necessarily that he can play any position, its more of the fact that he really does not have a position, not good enough in man or has the size to play on the outside, not big enough to play safety consistently and there was a reason LSU rarely used him to cover deep parts of the field. Great playmaker but has huge weaknesses that a defense coordinator would have to build around.

EARTHQUAKE2689
03-27-2013, 11:25 PM
Those are good points.

IMO his size, off field red flags and lack of college football experience makes him a no pick or a 5th through 7th round pick. There is better talent out there.

I wouldn't say he has a lack of college football experience, and I have been saying since his Sophomore year, I will not hesitate to draft him in the 2nd, 3rd, whenever. If he is our guy or the guy Shanny wants better a round "too" early than a pick too late.

hagams
03-28-2013, 02:48 PM
You simply can't teach the skills that Mathieu has. He almost reminds me of a smaller #21. The guy looks like he was born to play football. I'd love to see this kid in burgundy and gold and become a star.

I didn't want to be the first to throw these two in the same breath. I think he plays at the same emotional level that Sean did. I would like to have him at the right time in the draft. I think the 3rd is too risky, but we need to look at's whats on the board at that time. What's the downside? We burn this years 3rd rounder, sign him cheap for 2 years and see what happens.

GridIron26
03-28-2013, 07:33 PM
"Debunking the Myth that is the Honey Badger" -Why Tyrann Mathieu Won't Work for the Redskins (http://httr24-7.com/draft/debunking-the-myth-that-is-the-honey-badger-why-tyrann-mathieu-wont-work-for-the-redskins/)

Interesting argument against Mathieu

mredskins
03-28-2013, 08:21 PM
"Debunking the Myth that is the Honey Badger" -Why Tyrann Mathieu Won't Work for the Redskins (http://httr24-7.com/draft/debunking-the-myth-that-is-the-honey-badger-why-tyrann-mathieu-wont-work-for-the-redskins/)

Interesting argument against Mathieu

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