The Goat
03-19-2013, 05:33 PM
IMO Jarvis Jenkins will be more beastly than he was last year. They say that it can take more than a year to regain burst after the injury that he had, so all of last year he was still trying to regain burst. This year he should be ready to bring more pressure from the DE.
Agree with this. Hopefully JJ is our starter and takes his game to a new level with Carriker rotating in, depending on his return to health.
The Goat
03-19-2013, 05:34 PM
I think this injury has occured a couple times now with Rak. He is in the last year of his contract, so its time to see if he is over it and can return to his high level of play. Retaining RJ is very key with that plan.
Wait, I thought Jackson was already re-signed? Or is that what you meant...
The Goat
03-19-2013, 05:38 PM
Im more interested to see what we'd have in 2014. I highly doubt both will be on the team. Would be nice if RJ played at such a level we could trade orakpo early on this year or franchise and trade next offseason.
I'm still curious if Jackson could transition well into ILB alongside Riley after Fletcher retires. His skill advantage seems to be along the lines of athleticism and football IQ, as opposed to pure pass rushing like Orakpo. If he could become a reliable tackler he'd be a gem inside.
GridIron26
03-19-2013, 05:40 PM
I'm still curious if Jackson could transition well into ILB alongside Riley after Fletcher retires. His skill advantage seems to be along the lines of athleticism and football IQ, as opposed to pure pass rushing like Orakpo. If he could become a reliable tackler he'd be a gem inside.
I was wondering about that too little while ago. But I'm not sure if he has enough speed to cover some TEs and RBs though.
SirLK26
03-19-2013, 06:22 PM
Im more interested to see what we'd have in 2014. I highly doubt both will be on the team. Would be nice if RJ played at such a level we could trade orakpo early on this year or franchise and trade next offseason.
Why would you even begin to consider trading Orakpo? He doesn't command a large salary, he's young, and when healthy is probably our best pass rusher.
The Goat
03-19-2013, 06:28 PM
Why would you even begin to consider trading Orakpo? He doesn't command a large salary, he's young, and when healthy is probably our best pass rusher.
I think BHA has a solid point. Orakpo is (still) better suited as a hand in the dirt 4-3 DE. He's not terribly good in space, and doesn't have the football IQ RJ has, even with much more experience.
If Orakpo has a good year and a 4-3 defense wants to pay a premium for his services we have to entertain the idea.
BigHairedAristocrat
03-19-2013, 07:00 PM
Why would you even begin to consider trading Orakpo? He doesn't command a large salary, he's young, and when healthy is probably our best pass rusher.
Orakpo thinks he's one of the leagues elite pass rushers. Unless he has an awful year, he won't be cheap to resign. Jackson showed promise as a starter last year. If he keeps it up, he'll get a starting job somewhere. I guess my feeling is that Jackson could be 80% of the payer orakpo is, but he'd come at a 25% of the cost. Why but grey goose when pinnacle tastes almost is good but is half the price?
I think BHA has a solid point. Orakpo is (still) better suited as a hand in the dirt 4-3 DE. He's not terribly good in space, and doesn't have the football IQ RJ has, even with much more experience.
If Orakpo has a good year and a 4-3 defense wants to pay a premium for his services we have to entertain the idea.
At his age a good healthy year could warrant and 2nd + 5th or somewhere in that neighborhood.. paying the price to re-sign him prior could be the hitch in the giddy up
Rak is in his last year of his current deal, so if he has a good year we can't trade him.
Defensewins
03-19-2013, 07:23 PM
IMO Jarvis Jenkins will be more beastly than he was last year. They say that it can take more than a year to regain burst after the injury that he had, so all of last year he was still trying to regain burst. This year he should be ready to bring more pressure from the DE.
Yes sir, JJ was starting to show a little of his pre-ACL skills towards the end of last season.
With Carricker, Jenkins, S. Bowen, along with Golston, Doug Worthington and late season practice squad signing Phillip Merlling we are pretty big and deep at DE. I like the big kid Worthington, in the 6 games Worthington was active he was not pushed around and held his own. If he can continue to improve I would not be shocked to see Golston the odd man out of this group.
Wr is another position a possible return to health will hopefully show up well on the stat sheet in 2013. Morgan and Hankerson played injured most of last season. They still flashed some skill at times. Aldrick Robinson also was dinged and he looks promising as well. This is a good young group.