Sequestration - good, bad, or indifferent?

Answer: None.

It made it hard? You mean how the kid that got on board a airplane with a shoe bomb? TSA agents have been nothing but a menace since their creation. Groping women, harassing kids and other passengers has been their specialty, not stopping terrorists.

TSA Agents Harass Three-Year-Old with Spina Bifida, Take Away Her Stuffed Animal (http://gawker.com/5986030/tsa-agents-harass-three+year+old-with-spina-bifida-take-away-her-stuffed-animal)

http://boingboing.net/2012/04/25/tsa-agents-bully-7-year-old-wi.html

TSA harassment sends rape victim to emergency room — RT USA (http://rt.com/usa/tsa-rape-room-wife-179/)

TSA Agents Harass Disabled Passengers: Cause for Concern : News : TravelersToday (http://www.travelerstoday.com/articles/2333/20120717/tsa-agents-harass-disabled-passengers-cause-concern.htm)

You give our incompetent enforcement agencies way too much credit.


Security is Big Business at Super Bowl XLVII - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciajessop/2013/01/30/security-is-big-business-at-super-bowl-xlvii/)

We don't need to be involved with security for the Super Bowl, the NFL makes 9+ billion a year, let them handle it.


Well, those departments you named were their prior to the HS department being formed so no. I have a huge issue with pouring billions of dollars into "security" when it's not protecting us from shit. Again, I'm not talking about agencies that existed prior to 9/11.

Well since the Coast Guard performs a lot of port and border security for Homeland Defense I reassert my stance that you are a loon and dont know WTF you are talking about. You dont know who or what Homeland defense is. And your NFL comment just cements that.
Or do you just drink a lot....cause that would explain it.

Well since the Coast Guard performs a lot of port and border security for Homeland Defense I reassert my stance that you are a loon and dont know WTF you are talking about. You dont know who or what Homeland defense is. And your NFL comment just cements that.
Or do you just drink a lot....cause that would explain it.


Apparently you didn't understand anything I said. The Department of Homeland Security did NOT exist before 9/11. The Coast Guard, TSA, and some of the other sub groups did exist before 9/11. Get rid of Homeland Security, and move those groups back to where they came from.


How hard is that to understand? Fact is, funding is being put into Homeland Security that wouldn't have if the department was never created.

Again, you have YET to show many any god damn results for all these terrorists we've stopped, which is EXACTLY why the Homeland Security was created for.

What's the problem with the NFL comment? I don't want my ****ing tax dollars being spent guarding some private organization's event. I don't give a flying **** who's playing in that game. We have NO business spending any money providing security for the Super Bowl.

I wouldn't call anybody a loon that posts pictures of dolls in freezers. I'd be more than happy to wager that most people think YOU are the loon, not me.

Facts are still facts.
Just off the top of my head he blamed Bush for Obama's extension of the Bush tax breaks. How is that if they where set to expire that has to go on Obama. So Obama has over 1/3 of the total def. on his watch but gets 8% of the blame.

NC_Skins I agree on the Homeland Security funding. While there may be some slight gain in the consolidation, the bureaucracy created is just ridiculous.

I disagree about the Superbowl though. I get that it is a privately sponsored event, but it is an international spectacle, and a giant target of US opulence and excess. So I can understand some level of federal assistance in the security. Protecting the population one of the reasonable duties of the federal government.

Apparently you didn't understand anything I said. The Department of Homeland Security did NOT exist before 9/11. The Coast Guard, TSA, and some of the other sub groups did exist before 9/11. Get rid of Homeland Security, and move those groups back to where they came from.


How hard is that to understand? Fact is, funding is being put into Homeland Security that wouldn't have if the department was never created.

Again, you have YET to show many any god damn results for all these terrorists we've stopped, which is EXACTLY why the Homeland Security was created for.

What's the problem with the NFL comment? I don't want my ****ing tax dollars being spend guarding some private organization's event. I don't give a flying **** who's playing in that game. We have NO business spending any money providing security for the Super Bowl.

I wouldn't call anybody a loon that posts pictures of dolls in freezers. I'd be more than happy to wager that most people think YOU are the loon, not me.

That's the goverments job is to protect its citizens you loon.

FD and AW why do you two insist on calling posters and those who disagree with you names? Can't you make your case without resorting to that?

Just curious.

FD and AW why do you two insist on calling posters and those who disagree with you names? Can't you make your case without resorting to that?

Just curious.

Please find post where I call people names. I just called NC a loom joking around. I guess I should have put JK after it but find another example. If anything I get called the names but you seem to miss that.

Please find post where I call people names. I just called NC a loom joking around. I guess I should have put JK after it but find another example. If anything I get called the names but you seem to miss that.

Well, my comment was directly following the loon comment(which I didn't see as a joke), and if you don't normally I apologize for the generalized statement.

That said, one of the worst parts of our political society now, imo, is the lack of respectful discussion, instead turning to name calling, or partisan demagoguery. I just wonder if at the discussions of the Federalist papers, if the politicians and civil society of that day were as disrespectful as we as a rule are now.

Well, my comment was directly following the loon comment(which I didn't see as a joke), and if you don't normally I apologize for the generalized statement.

That said, one of the worst parts of our political society now, imo, is the lack of respectful discussion, instead turning to name calling, or partisan demagoguery. I just wonder if at the discussions of the Federalist papers, if the politicians and civil society of that day were as disrespectful as we as a rule are now.

Apology acepted. I have said the same as you in the past about the name calling. After I read my post again I can see how calling him a loon may not have come across as a joke. I figured it sounded like a joke because who calls someone a loon now days.

NC_Skins I agree on the Homeland Security funding. While there may be some slight gain in the consolidation, the bureaucracy created is just ridiculous.

I disagree about the Superbowl though. I get that it is a privately sponsored event, but it is an international spectacle, and a giant target of US opulence and excess. So I can understand some level of federal assistance in the security. Protecting the population one of the reasonable duties of the federal government.

One thing I don't gat is that the National Flood Insurance Program now falls under Home Land Security.