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CRedskinsRule 03-03-2013, 08:32 PM I dont view them as a military units.
I view it as a source of national pride and an American icon. So do a lot of other people.
Something every president in my lifetime has been able to finance except the guy from Hawaii.
And your luxury word is fairly stupid since you cant put a price on national pride.
But like I said, the treehuggers are in charge and treehuggers arent going to care....
but they are military units, specifically the USAF Air Demonstration Squadron, and the Flight Demonstration Squadron.
Your statement about every president is ridiculous in light of the fact that I could say the same about several entitlement programs that I would prefer be reduced or cut. The fact that it has been around doesn't prove it's worth when our country's national economic health is on the line. In fact, after the tragic crash in 1982, the AF considered disbanding the unit, but didn't. (said to point that it's not some unpatriotic tree hugger idea, when the military legitimately debated it, when our finances weren't nearly as bad).
You never did answer what defense cuts you would make to offset keeping the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels going. It's only 4mill a year(2mil each) so surely you can suggest another option?
CRedskinsRule 03-03-2013, 10:08 PM also, it is the navy and the air force departments deciding that these shows should be cancelled not Pres. Obama dictating they be stopped.
Chico23231 03-04-2013, 08:43 AM They should complain. By the time they pay federal and state taxes they are paying around $100,000 a year. Thay are not the people who should get hit. Its the people paying no taxes and the millionairs who can afford to pay more.
As someone who looked at tax returns for several years, they are people who take advantage of the tax system in every single tax bracket. But what I found who took advantage of it the most with stretching things were real estate agents and small business owners. Its really a game, they do everything in their power to show no income to the IRS and then over exagerate income when it comes to personal lending.
firstdown 03-04-2013, 10:10 AM As someone who looked at tax returns for several years, they are people who take advantage of the tax system in every single tax bracket. But what I found who took advantage of it the most with stretching things were real estate agents and small business owners. Its really a game, they do everything in their power to show no income to the IRS and then over exagerate income when it comes to personal lending.
The first thing that a bank ask for when a self employed person wants a loan is tax returns so you can't have it both ways. It has to be claimed as income on your taxes for a bank to even consider it income. Second as a business owner you can avoid paying taxes on some money but your having to spend money on business things and thats money that could have been actual income. I'm sure you have heard someone say donate you can write it off. Sure I can write it off but it also was money that is no longer income. So do I want to donate $100 to avoid paying taxes on that money. I can put a meal or two on the business credit card or a round of golf but I olny can take a % of those charges off as an expense.
NC_Skins 03-04-2013, 10:51 AM Nothing is going to change while douche bags like these are in place. Boehner is flat out lying.
Boehner, David Gregory Spar On Sequester Cuts - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/sequester-cuts-sequestration-boehner-david-gregory-meet-the-press-2013-3?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_me dium=email&utm_content=emailshare)
Here's the exchange:
BOEHNER: Now listen, we've known about this for 16 months. And yet even today, there's no plan from Senate Democrats or the White House to replace the sequester. And over the last 10 months, House Republicans have acted twice to replace the sequester. There are smarter ways to cut spending than these automatic across the board...
DAVID GREGORY:
GREGORY: But Mr. Speaker, that's just not true. They've made it very clear, as the President just did, that he has a plan that he's put forward that involves entitlement cuts, that involves spending cuts, that you've made a choice as have Republicans to leave tax loopholes in place. And you'd rather have those and live with all these arbitrary cuts...
BOEHNER: Well, David that's just nonsense. If he had a plan, why wouldn't Senate Democrats go ahead and pass it? The House has acted twice over the last ten months to replace the sequester. If we’re going to — the president got his tax hikes on January the first. If we're going to get rid of loopholes, let's lower rates and make the tax code fair for all Americans.
Well dumbass, why haven't they passed anything?
Let The Cuts Begin! | TPMDC (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/republicans-block-sequestration-alternative.php)
Your GOPers filibustering it is why.
firstdown 03-04-2013, 10:54 AM Nothing is going to change while douche bags like these are in place. Boehner is flat out lying.
Boehner, David Gregory Spar On Sequester Cuts - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/sequester-cuts-sequestration-boehner-david-gregory-meet-the-press-2013-3?nr_email_referer=1&utm_source=Triggermail&utm_me dium=email&utm_content=emailshare)
Well dumbass, why haven't they passed anything?
Let The Cuts Begin! | TPMDC (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/republicans-block-sequestration-alternative.php)
From your own post they tried twice.
Your GOPers filibustering it is why.
BOEHNER: Now listen, we've known about this for 16 months. And yet even today, there's no plan from Senate Democrats or the White House to replace the sequester. And over the last 10 months, House Republicans have acted twice to replace the sequester. There are smarter ways to cut spending than these automatic across the board...
NC_Skins 03-04-2013, 11:05 AM You heard after the election how the GOP was no longer going to be the "party of stupid", yet here they are again doing what they do best. Being stupid. I don't get it, people hate you, even your own side, yet you still continue doing stuff deliberately trying to sabotage the economy just so you can blame it on the Democrats. While the democrats are far from innocent, I think even the brainwashed Americans at this point see who the real problem is.
Who Takes Heat For Sequester Mess? Even Majority Of Polled Republicans Blame GOP | Addicting Info (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/03/who-takes-heat-for-sequester-mess-even-majority-of-polled-republicans-blame-gop/#.UTQlgJH_x9M.reddit)
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NC_Skins 03-04-2013, 11:06 AM BOEHNER: Now listen, we've known about this for 16 months. And yet even today, there's no plan from Senate Democrats or the White House to replace the sequester. And over the last 10 months, House Republicans have acted twice to replace the sequester. There are smarter ways to cut spending than these automatic across the board...
I agree, but it still doesn't negate his bold face lie that the president or democrats didn't have a plan and if it did, why haven't they passed it.
Answer: It's because his party is continuing to block it.
Dude, at this point, it's so clear who the GOP serve and who they are protecting. Rich elite.
NC_Skins 03-04-2013, 11:19 AM No, Obama has his share of blame in all this.
Jeffrey Sachs: How Obama's Politics Led to Sequestration (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/how-obamas-politics-led-t_b_2804992.html)
Obama campaigned to make the tax cuts permanent for 98 percent of households, and restore the pre-Bush rates only for the top 2 percent of households. This policy made it look like Obama was on the side of raising government revenues, and compared with the far-right Republicans, he was. Yet by making most of the temporary tax cuts permanent he sided de facto with the Republican campaign to undermine government by reducing revenues.
On New Year's Day, Obama and the Republicans agreed to make the Bush tax cuts permanent for 99 percent of households, excluding married couples with incomes above $450,000. They also agreed to keep low tax rates on dividends and capital gains. This "deal" will cost the federal budget an average of around $400 billion per year in foregone revenues during the coming decade, or roughly 2 percent of GDP each year. Once that deal was done the stark shrinkage of discretionary government programs became inevitable.
firstdown 03-04-2013, 11:23 AM I agree, but it still doesn't negate his bold face lie that the president or democrats didn't have a plan and if it did, why haven't they passed it.
Answer: It's because his party is continuing to block it.
Dude, at this point, it's so clear who the GOP serve and who they are protecting. Rich elite.
What is the Obama plan? Funny your last post said that the Rep. agreed to a tax cut for everyone but the rich. HMMMM
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