Smithsonian Museum - yet another thread on team name

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CultBrennan59
02-11-2013, 06:10 PM
Somewhere there are Neanderthals and cavemen who are still offended for being called those terms..

NC_Skins
02-11-2013, 06:44 PM
Somewhere there are Neanderthals and cavemen who are still offended for being called those terms..


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SBXVII
02-12-2013, 03:04 PM
Which N word did you hear the one ending with an A an H or an ER?? Ill let this English teacher explain the proper usage.

Teacher uses the N word - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY16_nKORb8)


What about the N word ending in RO?

SBXVII
02-12-2013, 03:17 PM
I said it once before and will say it again.

I doubt very seriously that the individual who owned the team in 1933 and changed the name from the Boston Braves to the Boston Redskins did it with the intent to use the term negatively. The name change came about, I believe, so that the baseball team and football team would not have the same names. Then the team moved to Washington and took on the name Washington Redskins.

I also doubt very seriously the NFL itself would associate itself with a team that carried a negative conotation to any group of people or individual. The intent of the name is not negative but instead positive. Honestly, the American Indian's should flip their ideals, get off their "politically correct" stance and adopt and rally around the Washington Redskins and support the fact that few Pro teams are named after them or even support their cause. From government all the way down to the fellow man we hear hardly a thing about the Indian other then in our history books on how the white man over ran them and took their land and failed to reimburse them for it. Oh and put them on reservations.

Atleast someone is honoring them.

BaltimoreSkins
02-12-2013, 03:38 PM
I could care less whether the name changes as I support the team because I love the city of Washington and the football team. I do agree with most people in that I don't think the name of the team was created with the intent to be degrading to a race of Americans, but that is where the current trend with the name lies. Whether it is a dictionary definition or even an encyclopedia definition there is reference to the name being used in a derogatory manner far more recently than it has been used in a positive manner in the speech of the general public. There will come a time where either society will push the hand of the NFL and the Redskins or the owner will opt to change the name on their own accord. Either way it is in the future though I don't speculate as to when.

SkinzWin
02-12-2013, 03:52 PM
I think when the name finally does change it wont be in reaction to a lawsuit or court case because the team and the NFL will not want it to look like they have been forced into the change, they will want it to appear that the change was made on their own terms. Much like women members at Augusta National, one morning we are going to wake up one morning and hear hear the announcement. It will get a lot of play for a day and then be no big deal. Augusta did it on their terms and so will the Skins & the NFL.

As for team names I'd really like Americans or or maybe Hogs.

It will never happen but I think if it ever did, the name should be Washington Pigskins. Similar to our current name but is football related. That is unless the United Pig Processors Union finds it offensive and brings suit.

Or just simply the Washington Skins. Lots of people already call us the "Skins" for short.

BigHairedAristocrat
02-12-2013, 03:59 PM
I said it once before and will say it again.

I doubt very seriously that the individual who owned the team in 1933 and changed the name from the Boston Braves to the Boston Redskins did it with the intent to use the term negatively. The name change came about, I believe, so that the baseball team and football team would not have the same names. Then the team moved to Washington and took on the name Washington Redskins.

I also doubt very seriously the NFL itself would associate itself with a team that carried a negative conotation to any group of people or individual. The intent of the name is not negative but instead positive. Honestly, the American Indian's should flip their ideals, get off their "politically correct" stance and adopt and rally around the Washington Redskins and support the fact that few Pro teams are named after them or even support their cause. From government all the way down to the fellow man we hear hardly a thing about the Indian other then in our history books on how the white man over ran them and took their land and failed to reimburse them for it. Oh and put them on reservations.

Atleast someone is honoring them.


Thats a very good point. the overwhelming majority of native americans polled did not find the name offensive. Perhaps Snyder could counteract some of this criticism by actively supporting native american causes and garnering support from Native Americans. I think its "noble" that the Redskins honor a minority that's been trampled on throughout modern history by using Native Americans as the name/logo for its team. What other team does that? The Titans honor ancient mythological gods. Several NFL teams honor wildlife. The Bucs and Vikings honor violent races/criminals from history. criticize those teams and leave us the eff alone.

Glasgow Celtic
02-13-2013, 02:57 AM
I'm just offended that people are offended about this.

Must............get............out................ .more. :what:

irish
02-13-2013, 08:35 AM
It will never happen but I think if it ever did, the name should be Washington Pigskins. Similar to our current name but is football related. That is unless the United Pig Processors Union finds it offensive and brings suit.

Or just simply the Washington Skins. Lots of people already call us the "Skins" for short.

I also agree that when name was changed to Redskins back in the day it wasnt meant as a slur but times change and now it is viewed as a slur so for better or worse its going to change. My wallet is hoping it happens in the next 5 years.

When the name changes I dont expect it to be anything close to the word Redskins or have anything to do with Native Americans. It wont have Skin in it and I dont see it being Warrior or Braves either. That said I do think the name Pigskins is clever.

ArtMonkDrillz
02-13-2013, 09:12 AM
I also agree that when name was changed to Redskins back in the day it wasnt meant as a slur but times change and now it is viewed as a slur so for better or worse its going to change. My wallet is hoping it happens in the next 5 years.

When the name changes I dont expect it to be anything close to the word Redskins or have anything to do with Native Americans. It wont have Skin in it and I dont see it being Warrior or Braves either. That said I do think the name Pigskins is clever.Agreed, but I think they could still go with Warriors while avoiding any NA iconography. Golden State (NBA) and my old high school did the same thing.
Not that it would happen, but I remember thinking a few years ago, right around when the movie 300 was released, that an Ancient Greek or Roman warrior would be pretty badass mascot and it would sort of make sense with the architecture of DC.

http://static7.depositphotos.com/1152839/732/v/950/depositphotos_7327885-Greek-Spartan-Trojan-Vector-Mascot-with-Spear-and-Shield.jpg

Then again, I guess people of Greek or Roman descent would eventually start complaining... shit

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