Redskins 2013 Salary Cap Status

Demaurice Smith came in talking a big game, didn't back it up at all. The deals Upshaw made seem like hitting the lottery in comparison.

Upshaw and Tags had a good relationship and everyone seemed to understand that working together was better for all rather than trying to squeeze one more percent from the other guy. In essence...it became a union/employer thing.

No there still is a floor. But if a team isn't going to spend to the cap anyways then what does adding space to their limit matter? So yeah the players most likely lost out on some money overall.

One of the (many) BS aspects of the penalties is that we supposedly violated the collusive agreement not to take advantage of a cap less year. Yet, many owners benefitted by spending well under the would be cap floor during the non-capped year. I didn't see any of them getting penalized for violating
"the spirit of the salary cap" or taking "advantage of a one-year loophole."
Mara says Redskins, Cowboys are lucky they didn’t lose draft picks | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/25/mara-says-redskins-cowboys-are-lucky-they-didnt-lose-draft-picks/)

So, it was okay to take advantage of the cap less year in a manner that immediately harmed the players, BUT, it was not okay to take advantage of it in a way that would ultimately benefit the players (by giving more money to spend to the owners who actually spend it).

Mara is a douche.

SBXVII,

Don't take this the wrong way, but you are way overthinking this.



So 107,741+18 = 125,741 projected redskins assigned expenses
120,600 = projected cap allowed number
therefore the Skins are 5,141M over right now


The 18Mill is just a number on a spreadsheet. DS didn't pay it out of his pocket per se. In fact you could say since his available cap is less he may have less cash outlay so his need to raise prices might be less. Personally I don't the two have any connection, but it seemed like you were looking at it like a pass the penalty onto the fans type deal, and that's not right at all.

No, thank you for explaining it. I looked at the first post and after some changes they had us at 19 mill below the cap. Thats not 19 mill to spend because we have to account for the 18 mill penalty. The other thing I didn't know was how far below our cap we were.

Bottom line ,does anybody know who we are looking at in free agency with the little amount of money we have left? hopefully somebody that can help us i hope......... Dam losing that money stills stinks thou......

Based on the information provided above, i think the answer to your question is, "no one signficant." I imagine this years offseason moves will make the brandon merriweather signing look like a blockbuster deal.

One of the (many) BS aspects of the penalties is that we supposedly violated the collusive agreement not to take advantage of a cap less year. Yet, many owners benefitted by spending well under the would be cap floor during the non-capped year. I didn't see any of them getting penalized for violating
"the spirit of the salary cap" or taking "advantage of a one-year loophole."
Mara says Redskins, Cowboys are lucky they didn’t lose draft picks | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/25/mara-says-redskins-cowboys-are-lucky-they-didnt-lose-draft-picks/)

So, it was okay to take advantage of the cap less year in a manner that immediately harmed the players, BUT, it was not okay to take advantage of it in a way that would ultimately benefit the players (by giving more money to spend to the owners who actually spend it).

Mara is a douche.

He should have his eyes taped open and be forced to watch the love scenes in girl with the dragon tattoo over and over for 24 hours straight.

He should have his eyes taped open and be forced to watch the love scenes in girl with the dragon tattoo over and over for 24 hours straight.

Nope. RGIII's 2012 highlight reel on endless loop.

First of all, i think your analogy is crude and inappropriate for this site. Its certainly not the type of thing i want to read when i come here, especially when im at work.

Secondly, the 36 million didnt disappear. the cap dollars the league took away from the skins and the other 3 penalized teams was evenly distributed among the entire league. The only reason the Union supported the penalty, was because the league told them the penalty was the only way they'd allow the cap to stay "flat" as opposed to decreasing, which woul dhave made the union look bad.

You see, the current union leadership told the players that the cap would continue to go up by something like 10% a year, like it had been in previous years. However, under the new CBA, the cap isnt going up and isnt expected ot any time soon. If the had gone DOWN, in the first year after the new CBA was signed, the union would have faced a mutiny. The penalties against the 4 teams allowed the owners to be vindictive against teams that refused to illegally collude against the players, and it allowed the union (who was supposed to represent the players interests) to save face against their constituents.

Ultimately, the players are the ones getting screwed by all of this. The league has deceived them time and time again and its own union is weak and doesnt represent their interests.

I wonder what would have happened if the NFLPA said no we won't sign the agreement. Yeah the NFL threatened to reduce the CAP but by how much for each team? Also one would think the players would have been up in arms had the NFL came out after just getting over a hold out and said "Oops, sorry we have to lower the CAP." For what reason? I'd also think that would be a breach of the contract they just agreed to. NFL punishes the two teams there would be proof of collusion.

I think the NFLPA should have said no thank you and then said try to lower the CAP now less then 6 months after you agreed to pay the amount.

Nope. RGIII's 2012 highlight reel on endless loop.

I still think Mara wanted nothing more than to stop us from getting Griffin, and when he couldn't make up something with draft picks he went the cap penalty route.

I still think Mara wanted nothing more than to stop us from getting Griffin, and when he couldn't make up something with draft picks he went the cap penalty route.

Yeah, I just find it very sketchy with how Mara handled this, as well as most Redskins fans would. The fact that nothing was said, supposedly, until a few hours before free agency started was just very telling in my opinion. It would be very hard to convince me that it was all mere coincidence that the 'skins would be notified about such violation just hours before free agency. Everything points to a hatchet job to me, and it's great knowing that it kind of blew up in Mara's face. The Giants didn't win the division, didn't even make the playoffs, the Redskins got their quarterback, won the division, and made the playoffs. Also the fact that the two teams that were penalized were the two teams at the end of the season battling it out for the division crown and a playoff spot. Serves Mara right for being so devious.

There is a salary cap but not a salary floor. Didn't some of the cheapskate owners stay well under the salary cap last season?

Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones would have spent right up to their cap numbers to get better players. Some of the other owners would not and, I think, did not.

The players got screwed, afterall.

Good point. THe Redskins and Cowboys should point this out to De Smith. Might be a pertinent point in the fight with the league. Even if moot it's worth a shot.