Redskins 2013 Salary Cap Status

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CultBrennan59
03-12-2013, 03:55 PM
So you want the same secondary that an expansion team has: a couple of FA's and draft choices who are thrown together without concern for knowledge of scheme or chemistry. Great.

I would add that Josh Wilson is better than you give him credit for.

Don't worry Josh isn't going anywhere, but Josh Wilson gets pushed around a lot, which isn't good considering he's going against Dez Bryant and Hakeem Nicks twice a year. We need bigger more physical CBs; a secondary similar to Seattle's. Not these little fast guys.

Just a little nugget though about your other comment, The ravens secondary which they won the super bowl with was; Cary Williams (FA) Corey Graham (FA) Bernard Pollard (FA) and Ed Reed (drafted) They had just gotten Corey Graham that offseason so that was his first year playing; Cary Williams and Pollard came in last year. So there is some method to my madness of building a secondary. Like I say build through the draft, occasional FA. Just because I want these two FA's doesn't mean my team is fixed, I'm still going to draft guys to have them learn and develop behind them or incase the FAs don't work out.

Lotus
03-12-2013, 04:25 PM
Don't worry Josh isn't going anywhere, but Josh Wilson gets pushed around a lot, which isn't good considering he's going against Dez Bryant and Hakeem Nicks twice a year. We need bigger more physical CBs; a secondary similar to Seattle's. Not these little fast guys.

Just a little nugget though about your other comment, The ravens secondary which they won the super bowl with was; Cary Williams (FA) Corey Graham (FA) Bernard Pollard (FA) and Ed Reed (drafted) They had just gotten Corey Graham that offseason so that was his first year playing; Cary Williams and Pollard came in last year. So there is some method to my madness of building a secondary. Like I say build through the draft, occasional FA. Just because I want these two FA's doesn't mean my team is fixed, I'm still going to draft guys to have them learn and develop behind them or incase the FAs don't work out.

Not the same as you suggested. Your suggestion amounts to gutting the secondary and starting from scratch, not the Ravens method of adding pieces over a couple of years to go with a wiley old vet.

donofriose
03-12-2013, 04:31 PM
Just a little nugget though about your other comment, The ravens secondary which they won the super bowl with was; Cary Williams (FA) Corey Graham (FA) Bernard Pollard (FA) and Ed Reed (drafted) They had just gotten Corey Graham that offseason so that was his first year playing; Cary Williams and Pollard came in last year. So there is some method to my madness of building a secondary.

So the Redskins have Ed Reed in their secondary now? I'm sure if any team had Ed Reed they would be a lot better. By the way the ravens secondary was a mediocre secondary last year, the year before they were better but they had Webb (who they drafted) so I guess that is what the Skins should be shooting for. A secondary that ranked 16th or 17th, instead of building a great secondary like the...

Steelers... ranked 1st Keenan Lewis (drafted) Polamanu (drafted) Allen (drafted) and Clark (FA)... one free agent
or the Seahawks, who drafted their entire secondary.

If you want a mediocre secondary then you can get a bunch of free agents and hope they mesh. If you want a secondary like the Steelers or the Seahawks... you have to have them build chemistry together, mainly through the draft.

CultBrennan59
03-12-2013, 04:42 PM
So the Redskins have Ed Reed in their secondary now? I'm sure if any team had Ed Reed they would be a lot better. By the way the ravens secondary was a mediocre secondary last year, the year before they were better but they had Webb (who they drafted) so I guess that is what the Skins should be shooting for. A secondary that ranked 16th or 17th, instead of building a great secondary like the...

Steelers... ranked 1st Keenan Lewis (drafted) Polamanu (drafted) Allen (drafted) and Clark (FA)... one free agent
or the Seahawks, who drafted their entire secondary.

If you want a mediocre secondary then you can get a bunch of free agents and hope they mesh. If you want a secondary like the Steelers or the Seahawks... you have to have them build chemistry together, mainly through the draft.

Never suggested we have ed reed I was going by the whole premise that you can't get FA's to fill in your secondary to be good. Houston did it a few years ago with Johnathan Joesph and Daniel Manning; their defense went from 32nd to top 5 I believe.

Steelers aren't a good example anymore because they've really gone down hill. Seahawks I'll agree with.

donofriose
03-12-2013, 08:54 PM
Never suggested we have ed reed I was going by the whole premise that you can't get FA's to fill in your secondary to be good. Houston did it a few years ago with Johnathan Joesph and Daniel Manning; their defense went from 32nd to top 5 I believe.

Steelers aren't a good example anymore because they've really gone down hill. Seahawks I'll agree with.

I think Big Ben being injured had a lot with what happened with Pitt last year, they will be back this year. Steelers had a superbowl defense. They just had Batch and a broken Big Ben playing quarterback for them for the rest of the year. Houston also got a new defensive coordinator that year if you remember.

Evilgrin
03-12-2013, 10:21 PM
Wilson's statistics are better then Talib across the board, QB rating, comp percentage, first downs allowed, tds allowed. If Talib is so good, why did NE let him walk.

CultBrennan59
03-12-2013, 10:54 PM
Wilson's statistics are better then Talib across the board, QB rating, comp percentage, first downs allowed, tds allowed. If Talib is so good, why did NE let him walk.

He's been on the market for 6 hours. It's not that they're letting him walk. He's listening to his offers.

CRedskinsRule
03-13-2013, 09:30 AM
March 10, update. Lichtensteiger signs. Financial terms not yet available, so if someone hears something please post here, still waiting on terms for D Young too.

2013 Redskins Cap Room (Overage) At Start: ($2.7)

Moves Made to Date:
Released Jamaal Brown $0.2
Resigned Darrell Young ($1.0) temporary assumption
Resigned Logan Paulsen ($0.5)
Rob Jackson: ($0.8)
Kory Lichtensteiger: ($2.5) temporary assumption

2013 Redskins Cap Room (Overage) Current: ($7.3)

Roster Cuts or Restructures:
DeAngelo Hall $7.5
Santana Moss $3.7
Josh Wilson $3.2
Adam Carriker $2.2
Maximum Cap Space Created through Cuts or Restructures: $16.6

Priority Resignings/Replacements:
Fred Davis or similar TE: ($2.5)
Lorenzo Alexander: ($1.8)
Nick Sundberg or similar LS: ($0.3)
Sav Rocca or similar P: ($0.4)
Tyler Polumbus: ($1.1)
Cap Space Required for Resignings/Replacements ($6.1)

Rookie Pool Impact ($0.5)

Anticipated Cap Space Available for Free Agency: $2.7

Hey Schneed, any chance you'll get time to update this with any new numbers. I don't know how much info is out there, if any, but would be curious to see what Moss and Carriker's restructures did.

CRedskinsRule
03-13-2013, 11:05 AM
+ this update:

Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell

As @Jason_OTC reported, records show Brandon Meriweather's contract is different today. Base salary is now $1.2M. It was $2.45M. #Redskins

That Guy
03-13-2013, 12:09 PM
yeah, they're basically pushing all the money they need to make for 2013 into next year.

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