Gays in the NFL. How Do You Really Feel?

I think that jackass needs to be fined and suspended. Hell, I would think long and hard about even cutting him before the Super Bowl. No way, no how would I tolerate any type of hate in regards to a persons race or sexuality. I hate to tell this dumbass something, but he lives in San Fransisco. Last time I checked, it was a huge community for the LBGT.


In fact, I would either suspend him for the Super Bowl of flat out cut him. It's going to be a shame to see the organization merely slap his hand.(if they do anything)

I could care less if someone is gay or straight. I don't need to hear about it either way.

Well in todays world your totally wrong. They have as much right to play football as they do to being a moderator of a football forum.


Is one of the moderators here a gay??!?!?!?!?

I bet i know who it is too!

I could care less if someone is gay or straight. I don't need to hear about it either way.

Yeah, I have to say I feel the same way.

Today San Francisco 49ers Chris Culver said, "gays aren't welcome" in the locker room. Obviously in today's culture of PC, homosexuality and equality is still a very sensitive issue. But homosexuals in sports remains one of the last cultural barriers and is very much taboo.

Now I think discrimination of any sort is reprehensible, gays included. But I found myself being somewhat sympathetic to Culver's comments, while disagreeing with his view on gays. There's something so barbaric about the sport that I almost expect our other sensibilities to end where the sport begins. I don't expect football players on the gridiron to behave like we do in society. When I'm watching football, I've temporarily suspended most of what I believe to be decent and humane.

I guess to put it more plainly. If a team or a player don't have a problem with homosexuals, fine. Neither do I. If they do and don't want gay players on the team, I'm inclined to say I don't see a problem with that either.

Am I wrong? Where do you stand?

I don't think you're wrong. Guys may feel uncomfortable around a gay guy cause you have to shower with him and he's going to see you naked, things like that. Let's say practice is over and it's just the gay guy and myself. I wouldn't feel comfortable in that situation. As time goes on it might not be a problem. I have no problem with gay guys in general. My ex girlfriend had a good friend that was a gay guy and we went to gay bars with him from time to time.

Today San Francisco 49ers Chris Culver said, "gays aren't welcome" in the locker room. Obviously in today's culture of PC, homosexuality and equality is still a very sensitive issue. But homosexuals in sports remains one of the last cultural barriers and is very much taboo.

Now I think discrimination of any sort is reprehensible, gays included. But I found myself being somewhat sympathetic to Culver's comments, while disagreeing with his view on gays. There's something so barbaric about the sport that I almost expect our other sensibilities to end where the sport begins. I don't expect football players on the gridiron to behave like we do in society. When I'm watching football, I've temporarily suspended most of what I believe to be decent and humane.

I guess to put it more plainly. If a team or a player don't have a problem with homosexuals, fine. Neither do I. If they do and don't want gay players on the team, I'm inclined to say I don't see a problem with that either.

Am I wrong? Where do you stand?

1) Why the hell would a player from San Fran (of all places) say that right before the superbowl? Nothing like a nice distraction for the team before what will like be the biggest day for many of their lives. How could making this statement help your team win?

2) I think private organizations should be able to discriminate.

3) It sounds like you do to. If Tebow proves to be a distraction because he's a spokesman for Christianity, then i got no problem with him being payed less or not considered for a certain job (player, coach, tv). If a gay dude cant get a try out or gets paid less bcause he causes issues in the lockerroom because he's gay.... or more likely because of all the attention he will get, then its no big deal either. If a female makes it to the NFL, then i got no problem with her being paid more than commensurate with on the field performance, because of all the postive attention shell create.

I didn't ask about today's world. I made it clear, I don't stand by discrimination. But I'm having a tough time reconciling that with the culture of the NFL.

I asked how do you feel? And should we flip out because Culver said what he said.

insensitive especially coming from someone whose fans are in San Francisco and support that franchise so much. I have zero problems with anyone gay anywhere in our society. He should be fined and suspended.

This isnt much different than race imo. 5 to 10 percent of the population is estimated to be gay just like X percent of the population is Y race. Keep your personal views to yourself since this country (thankfully) prevents employment discrimination.

And I love how homophobics think every gay person is going to want to sleep with them or is somehow aroused. So stupid.

Also gay vs straight isnt as black and white as society makes it to be. Its better viewed as a spectrum. Or even in a Cartesian plane with bi sexuality vs non bi sexuality (dont recall the specific term) as the other axis. Actually would be even better if we add a third axis/dimension for asexual vs sexual. Everyone has a point (x, y, z) on that 3d chart. That would be the best way to look at it.

What makes any of you guys pontificating this belief that if you were in the locker room with a gay guy on the team and in the showers, that he'd give two craps about eyeing you?

A base understanding of human sexuality in general would explain that it doesn't work that way for anyone, gay, straight, bi or whatever.

Jesus Christ.