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MTK
04-26-2013, 02:16 PM
I think its very foolish to lump RG3 in with other "running" QBs. People have never seen this talent before and RG3 is a very intelligent guy.

I think your selling him real short. Not smart

Well it fits his argument, as well as his football IQ. As usual of course.

SmootSmack
04-26-2013, 02:23 PM
The Mule just doesn't shut up does he.

The Goat
04-26-2013, 02:24 PM
I think its very foolish to lump RG3 in with other "running" QBs. People have never seen this talent before and RG3 is a very intelligent guy.

I think your selling him real short. Not smart

You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Monkeydad
04-26-2013, 02:31 PM
May I request an avatar change for The Goat?

He's disgracing the one he's using right now. I vote for a "custom" one. Put Summo on the job. ;)

You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Congratulations. You are the first person to ever call Robert Griffin III stupid.

His intelligence and maturity has impressed the hell out of the rest of the world, even Dallas fans don't talk bad about him.


I guess we should all just stop responding and stop feeding the goat.

The Goat
04-26-2013, 02:33 PM
If we refuse to utilize his skill-set to the fullest, the likelihood that the team is successful is limited.

He's not a running QB, Vick was a running QB. Unlike Vick, Griffin is also one of the most accurate passers in the NFL and can beat teams on the ground and in the air. He's not a running QB, he's a QB who can run. It's more than semantics. There's a huge difference.

If Conan did his "If they mated" bit with Chris Johnson and Peyton Manning, RGIII would be the answer. The way Robert led the offense to a winning TD all by himself in just his fourth game in the NFL after they turned off his headset...that's leadership and poise like Manning, but with world class speed.

What's the difference? Fewer carries or yards? Nope. Fewer hits? Nope. Fewer injuries? Worse for RG so far (by a long way).

Again, I keep going back to the preponderance of evidence. Stats. And injury history that's already of huge concern unless you're a total homer.

To your earlier point, given RG's talent as a pure passer, why not build a formidable line to protect him (we don't have) while he picks the defense apart, give him a solid running game (we do have with the ZBS), and let the yards/TDs rack up? Keep him safe as possible but have all the success. Win-win, right?

Again, our offense with RG (thus far) only makes sense if you can't be successful in a traditional offense. Why take all the extra risk if you can get the same results otherwise?

Please don't mention injuries to Brady, Manning etc etc here. We've been down that road a hundred times...those guys we're winning for 10 years before severe injuries...RG didn't make it 10 months.

Monkeydad
04-26-2013, 02:34 PM
What's the difference?

I just explained the difference. Read it again.

The Goat
04-26-2013, 02:37 PM
May I request an avatar change for The Goat?

He's disgracing the one he's using right now. I vote for a "custom" one. Put Summo on the job. ;)



Congratulations. You are the first person to ever call Robert Griffin III stupid.

His intelligence and maturity has impressed the hell out of the rest of the world, even Dallas fans don't talk bad about him.


I guess we should all just stop responding and stop feeding the goat.

Don't get sloppy now. You talked about his intelligence for avoiding contact, but it doesn't match the reality so far.

Dallas fans I know (most are friends) pity RG for the situation he's in. Running his wheels off is the typical comment.

CRedskinsRule
04-26-2013, 02:38 PM
You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Griffin learned, but only after shit got serious. for example after his concussion, you saw him use the sideline far better. After he got blasted after a handoff, and a ref actually told him, "you gotta get your hands up after the handoff", you saw him giving himself up once the ballcarrier was clear of the handoff. But he also has a superman complex. The question will be if he can clear that out in the waning minutes of games, and slide/get out of bounds.

If you watched the games then you know he increasingly used the sidelines and learned through the season. You also know that the plays that were called for him to run were quick to the edge plays where his burst allowed him to get to the sideline, and he really didn't take many hits from those.

No qb needs to be taking unnecessary hits, that's true, but how Griffin's hits were caused seems to be where you disagree with most everybody else on this board.

Chico23231
04-26-2013, 02:38 PM
You can't be serious here. If anything RG has shown less "intelligence" about avoiding contact etc. Or do you assume that will improve dramatically and he'll slide early and often or head out of bounds?

Keep saying he cant

CRedskinsRule
04-26-2013, 02:41 PM
Don't get sloppy now. You talked about his intelligence for avoiding contact, but it doesn't match the reality so far.

Dallas fans I know (most are friends) pity RG for the situation he's in. Running his wheels off is the typical comment.

But that's just not accurately describing the nature of the offense, and from the cowboys board I am on, most Dallas fans find some way to comfort themselves from the thought of facing Griffin and the Skins every year. In fact, they can get pretty creative about it.

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