RGIII undergoing total reconstructive surgery: out 6-8 months

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irish
01-09-2013, 12:28 PM
Eh?

His knee was already compromised, didn't take much to injure it further. A brace does little to prevent injury... it's just there to provide support to a weak joint.

True but I doubt Shanny made this decision alone. I'm sure the medical staff was consulted and told Shanny the risks/rewards of wearing the knee brace.

RedskinRat
01-09-2013, 12:28 PM
SS can probably address this in more depth, but I assure you it's not Goodell.

I believe there is a committee that works on it.

Everyone knows that's what Santa's elves do one they're done with Xmas.

SCRedskinsFan
01-09-2013, 12:29 PM
I think he'll rush back and be starting week 1. That's just how he is, hopefully he will be OK for the rest of his career. I really hope he's not the next grant hill of the NFL

There'll be no way to keep him off the field if he says he's OK and the doc says he's OK, and he's moving like RG moves normally...

If Kirk plays lights out in pre-season MS will have a real problem on his hand with RG when the season starts. No way does RG sit if healthy and "fully healed". And who decides what "fully healed" means? Well, you gotta start with the Doc, right behind him RG. If those two agree MS has very little choice.

It all has the makings of wonderful drama come August/September for all of us...

Chico23231
01-09-2013, 12:34 PM
We are now on scheduling conspiracies? Man ive seen some amazing stuff on this board since the injury, never been this crazy.

People, its football. Guys get hurt all the time. Im thoroughly exhasted from the 1)blame game 2) injury speculation in the assumptions room and now 3)Time tables.

Let's let this play out, and please note, the Kurt Cousins pick is another feather in the genius cap of the FO. Im sure we already have a plan and I got faith, regardless of the RG3 injury, we will remain competitive in our division.

GoSkins!
01-09-2013, 12:36 PM
Update 10:57: While conducting surgery to repair the torn lateral collateral ligament in Robert Griffin III’s right knee, Dr. James Andrews found that the quarterback’s anterior cruciate ligament is in relatively good condition. But a person with knowledge of the situation said the ligament “needs to be stronger.”

Robert Griffin III surgery is underway [updated] (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/01/09/robert-griffin-iii-surgery-is-at-7-a-m/)

BigHairedAristocrat
01-09-2013, 12:39 PM
Eh?

His knee was already compromised, didn't take much to injure it further. A brace does little to prevent injury... it's just there to provide support to a weak joint.

Exactly, and if it slides out of place, it cant provide the support. If it cant provide support, and you put your weight on it, twist it, etc., youre more likely to injure it. When Griffin left the game the first time (didnt miss any plays) and went into that horribly tacky looking plywood shack, it was to put his brace back on properly because it had slipped out of place. When he came back in, he was limping 10 times worse than he was before. Seems to me the brace falling out of place, allowed his knee to move in ways it wasnt healthy enough for, resulting in his injury, but thats just the assumption i made.

los panda
01-09-2013, 12:40 PM
get well griff, come back stronger, we know you're hungry.

skinsfaninok
01-09-2013, 12:45 PM
His dad said the AcL wasn't as bad and that they just did they surgery anyway. I guess he's trying to say it wasn't torn all the way? Either way I'm done w the RGIII knee lol.

MTK
01-09-2013, 12:46 PM
Exactly, and if it slides out of place, it cant provide the support. If it cant provide support, and you put your weight on it, twist it, etc., youre more likely to injure it. When Griffin left the game the first time (didnt miss any plays) and went into that horribly tacky looking plywood shack, it was to put his brace back on properly because it had slipped out of place. When he came back in, he was limping 10 times worse than he was before. Seems to me the brace falling out of place, allowed his knee to move in ways it wasnt healthy enough for, resulting in his injury, but thats just the assumption i made.

Why do you think it slid out of place?

I would bet that thing was on tighter than a drum, and probably heavily taped up underneath as well.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-09-2013, 12:47 PM
Then who makes up the schedule, Mr. Paintrain?

SS can probably address this in more depth, but I assure you it's not Goodell.

I believe there is a committee that works on it.

SS used to work on the schedule. There are alot of posts in a thread earlier this year where he shares some insights, but here are some highlights:

http://http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/47445-2012-redskins-schedule-released-today-9.html#post909977

It's a beast of a job. Working on scheduling was one of my most demanding, yet satisfying jobs ever

Yeah ESPN will build out multiple scenarios/schedules. Taking into account various factors.

There is a lot of back and forth with ESPN and the league (and indirectly the other networks). For example, let's say the NFL tells NBC we want that Bucanneers vs. Falcons game in early October because ESPN working on renewing a deal with the cable affiliate in Tampa and we want to apply some pressure marketing and heavy advertising in October, then the NFL will come back to ESPN and say "that Ravens game you wanted in November, NBC wants that now in exchange for giving you the Tampa game."

Or Fox could say we've got no room on the schedule for a 1pm Dolphins game and Miami doesn't want it at 4pm because the Heat are already playing at home and traffic would be a mess, so the NFL puts them on the road that week and so on.

Ultimately, it's what the NFL wants to do. But there is a lot of back and forth negotiating.

There are also contractual obligations regarding prime time games. Some that are known, like max number of prime time games for each team. Others that are not as well known, such as geographic obligations.



From ESPN's end, there are no computer simulated scenarios. It's all people operated.

And yes, 100+ game seasons are insane. Tennis is particularly difficult.

At ESPN in particular, there are specific teams of people assigned to various sports as well as news and info.

So everybody will work on their own schedules and casually interact with other sport teams.

Then every Tuesday morning, we'd have a free for all meeting. Well not a free for all per se, but it can get intense. "I have to schedule an NBA doubleheader this Friday. But I have to put a NASCAR race on ESPN2 at 9pm. But PBA bought 2 hours of time for a bowling tournament. But I have to get 18 hours of tennis programming in this week and 55% has to be on ESPN or ESPN2. But we're expecting the NFL to make their announcement this Friday night so we have to be prepared to go all night with SportsCenter. And so on.

Lot of "fun" to work through all the scenarios.

In the thread, SS linked to this interesting article that goes into more detail. Its a really interesting read.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/sports/nfl-schedule-makers-try-their-best-to-please-everybody.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&

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