Is there room for Orakpo and Rob Jackson?

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los panda
01-03-2013, 05:13 PM
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Ruhskins
01-03-2013, 05:13 PM
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REDSKINS4ever
01-03-2013, 05:16 PM
Rob Jackson is a beast. Brian Orakpo is a beast. If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely stronger consider trading Orakpo and re-signing Jackson. I'm not saying Bruce should trade Orakpo. I'm saying that he should consider trading him. Jackson has turned out to be a force on defense.

Rob Jackson's stock has definitely increased greatly.

los panda
01-03-2013, 05:19 PM
Rob Jackson is a beast. Brian Orakpo is a beast. If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely stronger consider trading Orakpo and re-signing Jackson. I'm not saying Bruce should trade Orakpo. I'm saying that he should consider trading him. Jackson has turned out to be a force on defense.

Rob Jackson's stock has definitely increased greatly.not much of a buy low-sell high kind of guy, are you?

The Goat
01-03-2013, 05:56 PM
I don't think we should expect Carriker to automatically be the same player when he returns. He's a bit long in the tooth and coming off a nasty injury, so it won't surprise me if he doesn't regain starter status for the 2013 season.

We already run a hybrid 3-4, switching between 4-3 looks and 3-4 looks pretty regularly. Our 4-3 package could be Kerrigan, Cofield, Turd Ferguson, Orakpo on the line and Riley, Fletch and Jackson behind em. The 3-4 look is Jenkins/Carriker, Cofield, Bowen on the line and Kerrigan, Fletcher, Riley, Orakpo/Jackson behind them.

We can keep both guys without breaking the bank. Orakpo's injury and lack of elite production works in our favor, and Jackson can be kept too.

The Goat
01-03-2013, 05:59 PM
Rob Jackson is a beast. Brian Orakpo is a beast. If I were Bruce Allen, I would definitely stronger consider trading Orakpo and re-signing Jackson. I'm not saying Bruce should trade Orakpo. I'm saying that he should consider trading him. Jackson has turned out to be a force on defense.

Rob Jackson's stock has definitely increased greatly.

It's a good idea, but could be hard getting a high pick for Orakpo given injury issues and lack of elite production. If we keep him, albeit on more favorable terms, and Jackson too we could see Orakpo pushed a little bit. Much like the Giants at their peak with a ton of talent along the front 7.

Defensewins
01-03-2013, 05:59 PM
Winning the NFC East does not discount the fact the Redskins still have to 28th ranked defense in the league. The rest of the team isn't so perfect that they can afford to disregard a principle of NFL defenses. They should be able to create pressure without having to rush six defenders, but since Orakpo went down that hasn't happened.

Ask the 2007 and 2011 Giants if a pass rush is critical.

Winning does trumps all. We play to win, win division titles and Superbowls, not to lead the NFL in sacks stat.
If a pass rush and sacks are so "critical" (using your words), why is that of the top 13 teams that led the NFL in sacks in 2012 over half (eight) of them did not even make the playoffs?
2012 NFL Team Defense Stats - National Football League - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/defense/sort/sacks)

I am not trying to discount the importance of sacks, just trying to say that it is a fraction of the game and they are not as critical as you and the media want to make it out to be. Stopping the run and running the ball take a back seat in the media coverage of the NFL that wants and tries to make it a Qb driven league and all that Bull Shit. Lost in all of this is our defense is ranked 5th at stopping the run and we are the #1*team at running the ball on offense.

KLHJ2
01-03-2013, 06:10 PM
Because you're forgetting about Keenan Robinson

To quote Alicia Silverstone in Clueless "My Bad!"

I guess we will just have to get rid of him because we just cannot tolerate that much talent on the defensive side of the ball.

MTK
01-03-2013, 06:13 PM
We won the NFC East with out Orakpo's pass rush pressure. How critical is that pressure?

We'd still be better off with his pass rushing abilities.

We also won without Fred Davis and a number of key guys. Are they any less valuable going forward?

los panda
01-03-2013, 06:18 PM
cut their asses if they haven't been a part of this 7 game win streak, that's how i feel about it.

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