Source: Deal Done; Coles For Moss

welcome to the warpath dirtywater. are you not a skins fan ?

what would be great and give us spectacular wideout corps is if we went into training camp with santana moss, david patten, and mike williams as our top three wideouts. with the running game, and we wouldn't have to worry about defense, we could be a playoff contender next year.

welcome to the warpath dirtywater. are you not a skins fan ?

No, sorry, I'm a Pats fan, but I am an NFL fan as a whole. You won't find too much trash talking from me, just like good football talk.

cant always compare the trade as to how it looks on paper. coles is better than moss, but moss will be better for this team than coles would have.

Sort of like samari and fred!?

So what should I do w/ my Coles Jersey? Cause not only is this damn name plate sewed on...its glued on too!!! DAMN YOU COLES!

somebody please correct me if im wrong but it seems coles is making out like a bandit in this deal. he signed a huge contract two years ago, got an enormous signing bonus and now when its time to play for his base salary for five years he gets another deal with another bonus, and the skins get screwed on the flip side they have to absorb the cap hit on coles bounus and now moss is surely to want another contract with a large bounus. i could be wrong but it seems like this was not a very good deal for us from a cap standpoint.

gman i would still keep the coles jersey. some people still wear champ bailey jerseys. i only bought one jersey, and that's lavar arrington because that man is gonna be with the redskins for his whole career. yes coles has ruined our cap but we are just gonna have to live with it. the skins are likely gonna extend moss' contract before we sign him so we will have some more cap room.

So what should I do w/ my Coles Jersey? Cause not only is this damn name plate sewed on...its glued on too!!! DAMN YOU COLES!

Hope that one day you can use it on this guy? (http://gocolumbialions.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/coles_jeff00.html)

Extending Moss' contract will not clear up any cap room for this year. He already makes near the minimum allowable salary for a player of his tenure, so his salary has nowhere to go but up. With his demand to be traded, Coles screwed our cap for this year, but getting his salary off the books will be helpful for years to come.

One aspect of the deal that I feel will dictate whether it is a successful trade or not is the contract that we give Moss. He definitely does not deserve a contract the same size as Coles, nor does he deserve one as large as Derrick Mason got from Baltimore (although I don't know the particulars of that contract.) I would like to see a 5 or 6 year deal that averages 3 to $3.5M per season, with the first three years of the contract being at minimum or near-minimum base salaries. SB should be reasonable.

This is a great trade. Aside from the team chemistry aspect, their is the toe. Coles had three 100+ games right off the bat in 2003. He hurt his toe in Game 3 against the Giants that year. Since then, he has only 4 more 100+ games (totaling 7). Moss has the same number of over 100+ in that same span (and he had Pennington for half a year in 2003 and Paul Hackett as a very offensive coordinator).

Coles needs surgery on his toe. He won't get it done. Even the most magical orthotic device cannot replace surgery. It is just a stopgap for this condition which eventually needs surgery. Therefore, the Skins made the right choice in letting go a player who will have/has a chronic condition.