Are you buying into the Shanaplan?

Ther is only one who is allowed to be Angry. I absolve everyone else from the emotion and title.

Its just football gents.

Edit: Actually I have no authority to do that...fight on gents!

No authority from God to absolve us or from Matty and SS to moderate the thread?

Ther is only one who is allowed to be Angry. I absolve everyone else from the emotion and title.

Its just football gents.

Edit: Actually I have no authority to do that...fight on gents!

I will abide by whatever authority, real or imagined, you possess. HTTR!!

Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.

Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.

I think they are quite different players. Orakpo is better at rushing the QB and while he has gotten better, still seems a bit lost in open space. Jackson is better in open space than he is being a pash rusher. Jackson seems more like Kerrigan to me. Imo, both are more suited to a 4-3 OLB where they play a more all around game and the pash rushing is on blitzes. I always thought Orakpo would be a better 4-3 DE with his hand on the ground than a 3-4 OLB. Orakpo should have run duty and rushing the QB duty, not trying to cover a TE or RB in pass coverage.

I do agree it is time to push Orakpo. He needs to learn a swim or spin move and then let him loose on attacking the QB. But we cant afford to pay him top pash rusher money if he is a bull rusher who also spends some time being average at best in coverage.

Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.

I agree that Jackson is a phenomenal player but Orakpo is still the better pass rusher. Until Jackson makes a couple of trips to the pro bowl, he's not in Orakpo's class just yet.

I think they are quite different players. Orakpo is better at rushing the QB and while he has gotten better, still seems a bit lost in open space. Jackson is better in open space than he is being a pash rusher. Jackson seems more like Kerrigan to me. Imo, both are more suited to a 4-3 OLB where they play a more all around game and the pash rushing is on blitzes. I always thought Orakpo would be a better 4-3 DE with his hand on the ground than a 3-4 OLB. Orakpo should have run duty and rushing the QB duty, not trying to cover a TE or RB in pass coverage.

I do agree it is time to push Orakpo. He needs to learn a swim or spin move and then let him loose on attacking the QB. But we cant afford to pay him top pash rusher money if he is a bull rusher who also spends some time being average at best in coverage.

I think both Orakpo and Kerrigan need to learn a couple of more moves. Watch tape of Miller or Ware or someone because both of them do the same bull rush move every time.

Rob Jackson instincts/football IQ might be better than Orakpo's. That seemed impossible at the beginning of the season. Jackson isn't a physical freak but could eventually be the better overall player. I'd keep them both still and switch them up. Time to push Orakpo anyway.

Jackson has had moments, but judging from the lack of pass rush this entire season Orakpo's pass rush is more important and vital to the team.

Were gonna be one sick team in two years. If we can steal a championship or two before that ill take it. Am i getting greedy? :)

Jackson has had moments, but judging from the lack of pass rush this entire season Orakpo's pass rush is more important and vital to the team.

No doubt.

I agree that Jackson is a phenomenal player but Orakpo is still the better pass rusher. Until Jackson makes a couple of trips to the pro bowl, he's not in Orakpo's class just yet.

There is so much more to LB position than pass rush. Unfortunately the sack stats is what gets all of the attention, big contracts and accolades. I would much rather have a LB with great instinct, solid against the run and pass coverage than a one trick pony LB that is only good at pass rush.
I think at times Orakpo is a liability.