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Ruhskins 12-11-2012, 06:45 PM Ruhskins, my point of emphasis here is that in place of Fred Davis, Cooley should be starting. Not Logan Paulsen.
I honestly don't think Cooley is that much ahead of Paulsen in terms of talent at this point (Cooley in his prime is a different story). Furthermore, given how complex the offense seems to be, I can see why Paulsen is starting and obviously he's been solid. Finally, I think Cooley may be doing a better job at blocking than Paul, so I think they may need him there, rather than catching passes.
I like Cooley a lot and I do hope that he gets involved in the passing game more (and I am not one to easily say that "he's done"). But I don't think he'd be much of an improvement over Paulsen right at this moment. In the end, RG3 spreads the ball so much among receivers, that honestly I don't think it matters who is starting (outside of Garcon) at TE or WR2/WR3.
The Goat 12-11-2012, 06:49 PM REDSKINS4ever, you need to take your emotion out of the conversation. You are such a big Cooley fan that it clouds your judgement of him.
You and GOAT are so caught up with TE being a receiver that you lose sight that the main reason Shanahan has Paulsen and Paul in there instead of Cooley is because they are winning and Paulsen & Paul are good blockers and pass protectors. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Ever heard of that?
It is no coincidence that our offense changed and in turn solidified when Fred Davis and Cooley (not known for their blocking) were either injured or cut.
You guys really underestimate the value of good run blocking TE's in THIS offense even if they are not pass catchers. Up to know we have had enough production through the ground game and RGIII and our WR's, that we can win with out our TE's being heavily involved in the passing attack.
If it works why change it?
I give up. Sure, Paul is a good blocker, even though he doesn't do it on gameday. He's also an all pro pass catcher, a fulbright scholar, and a superb chef.
Defensewins 12-11-2012, 06:51 PM I give up. Sure, Paul is a good blocker, even though he doesn't do it on gameday. He's also an all pro pass catcher, a fulbright scholar, and a superb chef.
And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.
Ruhskins 12-11-2012, 06:52 PM REDSKINS4ever, you need to take your emotion out of the conversation. You are such a big Cooley fan that it clouds your judgement of him.
You and GOAT are so caught up with TE being a receiver that you lose sight that the main reason Shanahan has Paulsen and Paul in there instead of Cooley is because they are winning and Paulsen & Paul are good blockers and pass protectors. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Ever heard of that?
It is no coincidence that our offense changed and in turn solidified when Fred Davis and Cooley (not known for their blocking) were either injured or cut.
You guys really underestimate the value of good run blocking TE's in THIS offense even if they are not pass catchers. Up to know we have had enough production through the ground game and RGIII and our WR's, that we can win with out our TE's being heavily involved in the passing attack.
If it works why change it?
Paulsen is good at blocking and passing. Paul, not so much. While Cooley may not be back (I hope he does), Fred Davis will be back next season.
FRPLG 12-11-2012, 06:54 PM Based on what we saw in preseason Cooley can't really run much anymore. Not sure why he'd be getting opportunities over other more serviceable guts like Paul and Paulsen. What makes anyone think he is better than either? What he DID BEFORE is meaningless. What he can DO NOW matters most.
REDSKINS4ever 12-11-2012, 06:59 PM So the argument now is Cooley is older which means he's slower. He can't run routes, run off the line of scrimmage as a flanker like he used to. The experience that he's had throughout his career doesn't help him now? He can't catch the damn football? I saw both Paulsen and Paul each drop passes in the Monday Night game against the Giants a week ago that Cooley would have hauled in.
Some of you are making it seem like Chris Cooley is some has-been senior citizen playing TE for the Redskins or something.
Gtothearry 12-11-2012, 07:00 PM Paulsen is good at blocking and passing. Paul, not so much. While Cooley may not be back (I hope he does), Fred Davis will be back next season.
What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?
The Goat 12-11-2012, 07:01 PM And Cooley is a probowl players and teams were fighting over him when we cut him.
Correction: Cooley was a probowl player who had his best season in 2010 with Mike Shanahan and he said after being released he preferred to stay in DC to live and play for the Skins again.
See how those darn facts make it so much different than the nonsense you wrote?
CRedskinsRule 12-11-2012, 07:03 PM So you're saying that Logan Paulsen is just as good as Antonio Gates, Martellis Bennett, Jason Witten, Growkoski for the Pats, Jimmy Graham, or Tony Gonzales? Come on, man. Gonzales is undoubtedly the oldest TE starting in the NFL and at 36 he hasn't lost anything. Mike Shanahan has rewarded the starting job to Paulsen because he's worked hard in practice and has been on the team for 3 years. But Logan Paulsen is still not better the Chris Cooley.
I disagree with everything you said.
Are you saying Cooley is as good as those TE's at this point in his career?
Ruhskins 12-11-2012, 07:05 PM What type of money/years do you think Davis gets?
I think that's going to be the tough part in bringing Davis back. I just don't see how you don't bring Davis back with RG3 at the helm. I mean imagine next year Garcon, Davis, and both RG3 and Morris with a year under their belt? That's going to be an INSANE offense (especially since we are a top 5 offense right now).
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