Chris Cooley

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SCRedskinsFan
12-11-2012, 09:23 PM
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I don't want to come across as overtly insulting so I won't explain what conspiracy means, or post a definition.

There's two different issues, which are intertwined. One is why Paul sees the field on offense? The other is why Cooley hasn't gotten more looks?

I tend to think Cooley should get more looks, like split targets with Lunch Pail. More strongly though, I don't see any evidence that Paul deserves to play on offense...anywhere.

To the last thing, yeah I still seriously doubt Shanahan will take us anywhere. Still happy to be wrong about it if things really come together, and I love wearing my Skins apparral right now btw. But no, I don't think Mike's going anywhere. My intuition is he's done just enough to keep his job into next year, and maybe even turn the team over to his kiddo afterward. I don't think we'll ever be a real contender with a Shanahan as HC, OC etc for myriad reasons that have been long debated here. I think better coaching prospects will be available next year, and the year after.

I don't mind being the minority in this regard, in part because I find the pro-Shanny posts/posters pretty amusing :)


Man, it must be tough to be you over the past month or so. Your Shanahan hate will not abate (hey, that rhymes), and there's just nothing that'll change that. Apparently ever. Too bad, your problem, though.

Obviously Paul hasn't produced, even with the little action he's seen. But just maybe his coach sees something in practice that, as a young guy, he could replicate in games. Like catching the ball. Turn Paul around though, you'll have a tough (we know that from ST) tight end, with speed that Cooley could only dream about even in his best days. So just maybe they're trying to develop a player. Think of the concept!

And tell me again how my posts make no sense, you make my day!

NC_Skins
12-11-2012, 09:43 PM
9 pages on a burned out TE?? Really? I'd rather go back to talking about the penalties and 3rd down conversions.


You Cooley fans get over it. He'll never be like he was back in the mid to late 2000's. He had a great run here and gave us some memorable moments, but it's over. Done. Finished. Move on.


When Paulsen is on the field and Cooley is not, that is telling you how far he's dropped.

redskins5044
12-11-2012, 09:47 PM
Cooley=Grossman for the team this year. Just here because he is familiar with the team after Davis got hurt. I would even say Grossman has more of impact on game day. Cooley is done we need to just move on.

Skinzman
12-11-2012, 10:29 PM
Cooley=Grossman for the team this year. Just here because he is familiar with the team after Davis got hurt. I would even say Grossman has more of impact on game day. Cooley is done we need to just move on.

One block late in the 4th quarter against the Giants while going for a first down to seal the game is more than Grossman has contributed all year. Hes good about talking with RG3 and Cousins, but Cooley is a good locker room guy as well.

redskins5044
12-11-2012, 10:33 PM
One block late in the 4th quarter against the Giants while going for a first down to seal the game is more than Grossman has contributed all year. Hes good about talking with RG3 and Cousins, but Cooley is a good locker room guy as well.

i was being sarcastic, but your exactly right Cooley is no more that the 3rd TE, which is usually a blocker.

REDSKINS4ever
12-11-2012, 10:48 PM
9 pages on a burned out TE?? Really? I'd rather go back to talking about the penalties and 3rd down conversions.


You Cooley fans get over it. He'll never be like he was back in the mid to late 2000's. He had a great run here and gave us some memorable moments, but it's over. Done. Finished. Move on.


When Paulsen is on the field and Cooley is not, that is telling you how far he's dropped.

If Cooley isn't fit to play football anymore, which is what this sounds like, then I'll agree with what you said. But if he still has something then he should be used and not sparingly like he is. Tony Gonzales is still a starter and Cooley is younger be is unable to do what he did four or five seasons ago? I highly doubt that. Kyle and Mike want Logan Paulsen in there because of his work ethic and because he's a young, big tight end.

Gary84Clark
12-11-2012, 10:50 PM
I thought Cooley was second string to Davis but his contract was too high. I want to see Cooley get the ball. Cooley is not washed up in my opinion. He is just not better than Davis and not worth his previous contract. I think he is worth his contract now, and I think he will contribute in the playoffs. Niles Paul has alot of growing to do as a TE. Hopefully he will grow in the offseason at TE.

DynamiteRave
12-11-2012, 11:16 PM
If Cooley isn't fit to play football anymore, which is what this sounds like, then I'll agree with what you said. But if he still has something then he should be used and not sparingly like he is. Tony Gonzales is still a starter and Cooley is younger be is unable to do what he did four or five seasons ago? I highly doubt that. Kyle and Mike want Logan Paulsen in there because of his work ethic and because he's a young, big tight end.

I'm going to render a guess that if 31 other teams passed on Cooley, he's probably not the TE he was in his heyday. Tony Gonzales is a freak. Doubt there'll be many dominant TE's playing in their late 30's.

saden1
12-11-2012, 11:21 PM
So long as he continues to block like has been he still has value to the team. I am sure there is a plan to use him in the passing game at some point.

redskin29633
12-11-2012, 11:33 PM
I'm not so concerned about Paulsen getting reps, but the fact Paul sees the field (instead) of Cooley is really dumb. Cooley is better in every facet of the game than Paul.

This is a Mike thing i.e. picking favorites, be they coaches or players, that don't make much sense because you don't see production. It's partly why I doubt he ever achieves much success in pro football again.

I think this sums it up. Maybe because I am a Cooley fan, I try to watch Paulsen as much as I can to see what he is doing that CC can't do. Frankly Paulsen is a lousy blocker; his technique is bad and he holds frequently. Cooley is better as a blocker, by far. At least I remember him that way, hard to tell this season, since he has not played much.

I think Cooley is also the better receiver but we don't target the TE position that much, so again it is somewhat hard to judge. Paulsen also looks awkward trying to catch the ball. Paulsen is bigger and perhaps he can do a better job with high throws.

Bottom line, Paulsen is Mike's guy and so he plays. Coach's prerogative. I would love to see Cooley more, but darn, things have gone so well the last four games, it is hard to get overly excited about the situation. I think Cooley would improve the offense, if he were used more often and effectively, but winning cures most problems so I'm not too worried about the situation!

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