The Obama Years- A GOP love story

Obama: 'I hear you' - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/05/politics/elections-wednesday/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

During a roughly 90-minute press conference Wednesday, Obama gave no sign that he'd accept major revisions to his signature health care law, change his mind on bypassing Congress on immigration or consent to Republican demands on energy and the environment.

Indeed, the President didn't do much to suggest that his White House would work differently after Republicans won at least 52 seats in the Senate and their biggest majority in the House since World War II.


... and, yet, the Republicans are the obstructionists. :doh:

Can someone tell me a good reason why people are pissed at Obama anymore? Unemployment way down, the Dow is sky high, more people with health ins than ever before... what exactly are people upset over??


.......he is black ,and he is the cause of absolutely everything wrong in this country and the world ,didn't you know that ?:joecool:

Russia plans long-range bomber flights near U.S. shores - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/europe/russia-bombers-plan/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

white house *crickets*

Russia plans long-range bomber flights near U.S. shores - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/europe/russia-bombers-plan/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

white house *crickets*
Heard about that last night...sux!

Can someone tell me a good reason why people are pissed at Obama anymore? Unemployment way down, the Dow is sky high, more people with health ins than ever before... what exactly are people upset over??

The conservatives always hated him, what he lost was the left. Drone policy, going back to Iraq, prosecution of the press, immigration. Truth is that Obama would be in the conservative party of almost any European country.

Russia plans long-range bomber flights near U.S. shores - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/europe/russia-bombers-plan/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)

white house *crickets*

What would you like a preemptive nuclear strike? Should they attack Russian bombers in International airspace?

The US did something very similar to this throughout the 60's. It was called Operation Chrome Dome and it only ended after the 5th B-52 crashed while holding H-bombs.

What would you like a preemptive nuclear strike? Should they attack Russian bombers in International airspace?

The US did something very similar to this throughout the 60's. It was called Operation Chrome Dome and it only ended after the 5th B-52 crashed while holding H-bombs.

Sure, we press the limits on occasion also. As the article indicates, as long as they stay out of our internationally recognized air space of ~14 miles off-shore, there really isn't anything we can (or should) "do" about it.

Of course, during the 60's when Chrome Dome was flying, we were at the height of the cold-war. Is it Russia's intention to recreate that era's mistrust?

How about a declaration from the Prez along these lines:

"Russia has indicated that they will be again flying offensive military aircraft within the US's claimed 200 mile air-space. It is unfortunate that Mr. Putin continues to use and escalate military confrontation as a foreign policy tactic. While technically legal under international law, Mr. Putin's actions blatantly disregard the US's claimed territorial airspace and are just the latest in a series of foreign policy actions by Mr. Putin which threaten the US's desire for peaceful relations with the Russian people.

Mr. Putin's actions unnecessarily harken back to a time of suspicion and confrontation epitomized by the 60's cold war era. It is not my countrymen's desire to return to those dark times, but, if forced upon us, we will face Mr. Putin with the same resolve with which we faced the decrepit and tyrannical Soviet oligarchs of that bygone era.

So that there is no misunderstandings, Mr. Putin should know that the US deems these flights as what they are clearly meant to be - a demonstration of offensive military capability against the US mainland. Accordingly, and with full respect to international law, any Russian military aircraft entering into US international airspace, without prior permission, to do so will be deemed to be taking offensive action against the US soil and will be immediately, and with no further warning, shot down.

Because of the offensive nature of weapons being used by Mr. Putin for these flights, Mr. Putin's choice to make these flights in close proximity to American citizens and industry, and Mr. Putin's past willingness to ignore and / or respect internationally recognized borders, claims of malfunctions or navigational errors by Russian military aircraft can not be considered as trustworthy and military planes making such claims will be shot down immediately upon entering the US's internationally recognized airspace. Accordingly, Mr. Putin, and Mr. Putin alone, is accountable for the risk he imposes on Russian military personnel.

It is unfortunate in this time of trouble when cool heads and peaceful processes are needed that Mr. Putin, instead, adopts the militarily confrontational methods of a bygone era. While striving always for peaceful resolution of differences, the US cannot and will not put the security of its citizens at risk and trust their safety to the petty sabre rattling of a tin-plated despot. We can only hope that Mr. Putin recognizes the error of this tactic and chooses to respect US territorial claims by making no flights within the 200 mile airspace claimed by US."

or just a simple "Okay, but we're going to shoot first and ask questions later if they get to close."

Never going to happen and Putin knows it. It's like he is just pissing on Obama and daring Obama to say anything about it. Obama really is Putin's biatch.

What would you like a preemptive nuclear strike? Should they attack Russian bombers in International airspace?

The US did something very similar to this throughout the 60's. It was called Operation Chrome Dome and it only ended after the 5th B-52 crashed while holding H-bombs.

Yes a preemptive nuclear strike.

Sure, we press the limits on occasion also. As the article indicates, as long as they stay out of our internationally recognized air space of ~14 miles off-shore, there really isn't anything we can (or should) "do" about it.

Of course, during the 60's when Chrome Dome was flying, we were at the height of the cold-war. Is it Russia's intention to recreate that era's mistrust?


Yes. That is what most on the right don't get. Not necessarily Russia, but Putin. A response like what you describe is just what Putin wants. He wants to try to provoke the US to overreact so he can overreact and so on. Putin wants to try to come off looking tough. This plays well with the his hardliners (think Reagan talking up the "Big Russian Bear"). There is no real threat, but he hopes to create one(think Reagan talking up the "Big Russian Bear").

This tacit doesn't play well with all groups within Russian namely the young and the rich, who are hurt by economic sanctions and would not benefit from poor relations with the US and Europe.

If Obama came out and made stupid, wild, and poorly thought out threats,(think Reagan talking up the "Big Russian Bear"), then it would it give Putin exactly what he wants. Not only that, but there is almost 0 support in this country for escalating tensions with Russia.

Yes a preemptive nuclear strike.

The Skins season has totally stressed me out....I could totally get behind a preemptive strike........