artmonkforhallofamein07
12-02-2012, 09:07 PM
2 other points.
1 How many times has RG III led us into winning games late to either have the chance taken away because of penalties or our defense giving up the lead late without time to get it done?
2 The strengths of our schedule vs theirs.
I may be completely wrong and seen as bias but I really do see a gap between the two players. Both are going to be good but RG III has shown greatness in so many ways on and off the field.
SFREDSKIN
12-02-2012, 09:15 PM
I don't really think Kaepernick is all that great. What has he done that Smith didn't do?
Kicked the shit of the bears defense, beat NO at their stadium. I love RGIII but there are other great young players out there too. Yes, RGIII is electrifying and great but you have to give credit to other players too.
ethat001
12-02-2012, 09:18 PM
If you're talking about winning drives -- Luck with two TDs with 2:39 mins to go is not bad either.
Indianapolis Colts vs. Detroit Lions - Recap - December 02, 2012 - ESPN (http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321202008)
I think it's a hard decision between RG3 and Luck now.
Luck almost certainly has taken his team to the playoffs, and had what most ppl thought was a pretty bad team. He doesn't have much running game to support him, and his defense has been pretty bad.
RG3 is statistically great, hasn't had his #1 WR or TE, and has been clutch in tight / pivotal games and is a walking highlight reel & cult-phenomenon. However, he has had a running game behind him and we're only 5-6 right now.
I think right now RG3 deserves the ROY, but I think Luck gets it if he goes to the playoffs and we don't.
Dirtbag59
12-02-2012, 09:19 PM
RG3 over Luck just based on the fact Luck sounds like a young Andre the Giant when he speaks. I just cant deal with that.
That sounds more like a point in favor of Luck.
artmonkforhallofamein07
12-02-2012, 09:24 PM
He has a running game that is vastly more successful because of his ability. We do not have a defense so to speak, if we did this team would not be 5-6. With Rak, BM, AC, and TJ playing this team is not 5-6.
I am not saying RG III is the only good young guy out there either, but I am saying he is a step above the rest.
redskins5044
12-02-2012, 09:25 PM
Kicked the shit of the bears defense, beat NO at their stadium. I love RGIII but there are other great young players out there too. Yes, RGIII is electrifying and great but you have to give credit to other players too.
I will give Luck and Wilson all do credit for playing well throughout the season.
Didn't know kapnerick played on defense to kick the shit out of the bears and not to impressed with him beating Saints in the Dome, RG3 beat them there too. The chiefs even won there so, show me more Kapernick
artmonkforhallofamein07
12-02-2012, 09:28 PM
Failed to score more than 13 on the Rams today.
Good Job Philly....keep it going!
Wow ...that hurts
SFREDSKIN
12-02-2012, 09:32 PM
I will give Luck and Wilson all do credit for playing well throughout the season.
Didn't know kapnerick played on defense to kick the shit out of the bears and not to impressed with him beating Saints in the Dome, RG3 beat them there too. The chiefs even won there so, show me more Kapernick
I'm not going to get into a Pissing contest here, Kapernick gives the 49ers a better dynamic than Smith. He's like a poor man's RGIII, he can run, has a stronger arm, more physical. He did kick their ass on offense, Bears are over rated in my opinion.
SFREDSKIN
12-02-2012, 09:36 PM
Cowboys are an embarrassment, Jerry Jones is looking as red as a tomato from being humiliated.