Official 2012 Election Day Thread

But I'm racist because I don't like his politics or his process?

Yea man, you imply that someone is racist and its such a demonized word all you have to do is toss it out there as a generalization and you win all arguments.

2004 election what's your f*&King point that you keep trying to make this about race.


Going to kill 3 birds with one stone here. First off, I never said that everybody who voted against Obama did so because they are racist. Otherwise, I would have to include myself in that statement since I didn't vote for Obama. (Johnson-white guy)

However, lets be real here. In the deep south, race plays a part. A huge part.

Ole Miss students start racist protest after election result - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/ole_miss_students_start_racist_protest_after_elect ion_result/)

Racist Tweets Abound after Obama Wins Second Term | JD Journal (http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/11/08/racist-tweets-abound-after-obama-wins-second-term/)

Earl Ofari Hutchinson: Hate on Social Media Against President Obama Soars (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/hate-on-social-media_b_1715976.html)



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Nah....it's not about race one bit. :rolleyes:

ps: FD, your 2004 graph still proves the other graph correct.

The race element is definitely out there. As someone who has spent some time in the deep south the past few years, I've heard it loud and clear with my own ears. To deny it's out there is just plain ignorant.

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Nah....it's not about race one bit. :rolleyes:

ps: FD, your 2004 graph still proves the other graph correct.

I loved Bill Maher's response to O'Reilly's retarded rant

O'Reilly just said people vote for Obama cuz they "want stuff", then cited blacks, Latinos and women. White men in US? TOTALLY SELF-RELIANT!

Going to kill 3 birds with one stone here. First off, I never said that everybody who voted against Obama did so because they are racist. Otherwise, I would have to include myself in that statement since I didn't vote for Obama. (Johnson-white guy)

However, lets be real here. In the deep south, race plays a part. A huge part.

Ole Miss students start racist protest after election result - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2012/11/07/ole_miss_students_start_racist_protest_after_elect ion_result/)

Racist Tweets Abound after Obama Wins Second Term | JD Journal (http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/11/08/racist-tweets-abound-after-obama-wins-second-term/)

Earl Ofari Hutchinson: Hate on Social Media Against President Obama Soars (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/hate-on-social-media_b_1715976.html)



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Nah....it's not about race one bit. :rolleyes:

ps: FD, your 2004 graph still proves the other graph correct.

I wonder if 20 years ago a Mormon had a chance at the presidency. They are going through the 5 stages of grief but I am not hopeful they will emerge from it as more enlightened.

The race element is definitely out there. As someone who has spent some time in the deep south the past few years, I've heard it loud and clear with my own ears. To deny it's out there is just plain ignorant.

The only people who deny racism are those who've never encountered it. Yes, its not 1950 anymore, but it reminds me of the sketch from Family Guy (since I can't find the video, here's the transcript):

Cleveland: Thanks for including my Civil Rights boardgame in the game night rotation guys.
Lois: Oh, we're always happy to play "Two Decades of Dignity." It makes us all feel a little less guilty.
(Peter rolls dice and moves his gamepiece.)
Peter (reading off a gamecard): For whistling at a white woman, go directly to jail. Aww, man doesn't anyone ever win at this game?
Cleveland: You don't win. You just do a little better each time.

Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.

The only people who deny racism are those who've never encountered it. Yes, its not 1950 anymore, but it reminds me of the sketch from Family Guy (since I can't find the video, here's the transcript):

Cleveland: Thanks for including my Civil Rights boardgame in the game night rotation guys.
Lois: Oh, we're always happy to play "Two Decades of Dignity." It makes us all feel a little less guilty.
(Peter rolls dice and moves his gamepiece.)
Peter (reading off a gamecard): For whistling at a white woman, go directly to jail. Aww, man doesn't anyone ever win at this game?
Cleveland: You don't win. You just do a little better each time.

Hahaha yeah I remember that bit. So funny because it's true.

Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.

Of course it is. A lot of blacks who won't vote for Romney because he's white.

I do think that's slightly different vs. when i hear people in the south drape themselves with the Confederate flag and call Obama a terrorist n*****.

Seen it plenty just down in Charlottesville, VA.

Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.

This is not a chicken and egg problem. It's a problem that spawned from years of repressive tactics, the southern dog whistles, and more recently the blatant disrespect of 47% of the population. Here is the break down of the African American vote over the last 7 cycles...the truth is in the last 12 years you managed to not only lose it further but to agitate and encourage it to not vote for you.



1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%
2004 John Kerry 88%, George W. Bush 11%
2008 Barack Obama 95%, John McCain 13%


It is easier to blame African Americans than look in the mirror. Mark my words, come 2020 your little redistricting gimmicks to control the house won't work as well as it has been the last 30 years.

Was race a part of the vote? Sure. But lets not pretend it was a one way street.
Less than 60% of whites voted for Romney.
More than 90% of blacks voted for Obama.
Racism works both ways: there are whites who would never vote for a black and vice versa.

It's not like Romney was pandering for minority votes anyway. The religious right is much more important.