Has the team mailed it in? (If so, why?)

This is the same Redskins team that beat the Saints right? What has changed?

Thanks GOAT, you've been banging the drum quite effectively too.

It's not a mater of being right or wrong, we just want to see an improved product...and outside of Gibbs in 2005 & 2007, we haven't seen it in 20 years. We see glimpses, try to be optimistic, gain hope, only to have those hopes dashed by this time every year. Why should Snyder spend $ 7M / yr. for piss-poor results. I'll say it with 100% confidence, if Snyder made me HC, I would do no worse and for a hell of alot cheaper than what's going on now.

You are what you're record says you are.....and Shanny's ain't very good.

Word. I think all of Redskins nation wanted Mike and his regime to succeed, and even at the beginning of this season I had the highest hopes we'd see improvement.

Not to nitpick but I'm not The GOAT (as in greatest of all time), I'm The Goat because way back in college friends called me goat because I ate everything in sight lol

Atleast if we lose out, we will have a good shot at the number 1 pick...

Atleast if we lose out, we will have a good shot at the number 1 pick...you mean the rams will

We had Jim Zorn for that.

But he made awesome funny faces.
:cheeky-sm

Goat - I dont think they are mailing it in, I think they just arent good enough. We can go up and down the roster, and the talent just isnt spread far enough. RG-3, ALMO, TW, a handful of injured guys, Forbath - money with the FG's. A few others.
WR - ehhh
O-line - been exposed last couple weeks - they were playing above their heads and now they are being exposed.
Secondary - do I need to even discuss that.
Dline - ehhhh
Riley/Fletcher - ehhhhh
I would like to believe that you could light a candle under this teams ass and it will respond - and its that easy. But Im afraid motivation only means so much - at some point you have to be better than the guy across from you.
We just arent good enough.

This is the same Redskins team that beat the Saints right? What has changed?

Nothing except that in Week one we thought the Saints were good. They are 2-6.

I don't think anyone has mailed it in but it is past time to realize that we are it that good, where not that good last year, and haven't been good in the past decade with the exception of a few playoff appearances where we were just window dressings and never a factor.

We are several players away from being contenders even in our own division. Is shanty the answer I honestly do not know anymore, I thought he was but I have seen nothing to convince me he can coach this team up, and make solid player evals.

Ill never be done as a fan but I have zero hope at this point for this or next season.

Your saying we don't have talent and I agree but who's fault is that? Mike has been here three years now it's his fault

Once you realize Shanny is not the guy it all becomes so obvious doesnt it? The excuses start to melt away and nothing is left but cold hard facts.

Totally agree. It would be nice if they can dig deep and get on a winning streak. The only team remaining on the schedule I see them losing to is the Ravens. They can beat both Philly and Dallas twice and I'm not too concerned about the lucky Giants. Even if they finish 8-8 it would still be a positive step in the right direction.

Was Carolina on that list last week?
If they finish 8-8 it wouldnt be a positive step in the right direction. It would be a god damn miracle!

Once you realize Shanny is not the guy it all becomes so obvious doesnt it? The excuses start to melt away and nothing is left but cold hard facts.

I think if we don't end this season at 8-8, Shanahan's gone. I won't feel horrible about it, but I'm still not ready to cry "mutiny" on the Shanahans yet.

If he gets fired, its cool and if he doesn't, that's cool too.