hooskins
10-31-2012, 01:27 AM
Whawhawhat?! Is this meant to be serious? There isn't a single Broncos fan I know, talking at least three dozen people here, who would ever want Mike back. Most of them wanted him gone well before the organization finally canned him.
What are you talking about?
And I'm sure you've isolated other variables with this sample of fans so they can accurately represent the population you are making that assertion for?
JoeRedskin
10-31-2012, 01:27 AM
I would not equate the loss of Rak with the loss of Carriker. At the same time, Carriker was a much bigger loss than Goat and his DVR credit.
The Goat
10-31-2012, 01:28 AM
Woah. Carriker is a huge loss on the pass rush front because he would push the pocket right up the middle in the face of the QB causing the QB to either not step up or try getting out of the pocket where our pass rushers would get him. Believe me we miss orakpo a lot but carriker is equally as huge of a loss.
Carriker had 5.5 sacks last season. Not bad for sure.
53Fan
10-31-2012, 01:31 AM
Woah. Carriker is a huge loss on the pass rush front because he would push the pocket right up the middle in the face of the QB causing the QB to either not step up or try getting out of the pocket where our pass rushers would get him. Believe me we miss orakpo a lot but carriker is equally as huge of a loss.
I believe he had 5 sacks last year also. I must say I expected a little more from Jenkins this year. Makes me wonder how much damage his injury actually did to him.
The Goat
10-31-2012, 01:36 AM
And I'm sure you've isolated other variables with this sample of fans so they can accurately represent the population you are making that assertion for?
Just being honest, I've never heard a Denver Broncos fan lament sending Mike down the road, never. Have you? Has anybody here?
Mike is somewhat of an enigma IMO. One of my relatives in Denver is a very successful oil man, and has done lots of hobnobbing w/ Denver "elite." He said Mike was a total ahole and not well respected there. Heard the same from one of the guys in my office that knows Plummer. I've heard a few players and other NFL personalities say Mike is a good coach, but that's about it.
punch it in
10-31-2012, 02:13 AM
Definitely stay the course with Shanny. For starters our offensive personnel is now tailored to his scheme and as Denver learned it's very hard to switch back. On top of that not many coaches can find Running Backs like they're long snappers. Also they've not only done a great job developing RG3 but Cousins looks to be coming along as well.
Denver realized they made a mistake letting Shanny go, the best COA is to keep him and find a defensive guy that can bring the D back to where it was the past decade.
Denvers best teams they have had in a while were last yeAr and this year. Wasnt too hard for them to adjust the scheme to life after Shanny. Also not sure about any regret comin outta rocky mountain high.
What have you seen in Cousins that makes you believe he is coming along? I saw a perfect spiral to a wide open Moss and two atrocious int's at crunch time.
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punch it in
10-31-2012, 02:25 AM
I believe he had 5 sacks last year also. I must say I expected a little more from Jenkins this year. Makes me wonder how much damage his injury actually did to him.
Expected alot more fromJenkins. He was supposed to be like a bonus early round pick this year because he never played last yeAr. He might as well still be on the IR. Big disappointment.
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Deivybaby
10-31-2012, 03:21 AM
We suck and next week our defense will revamp cam newton again giving him the best game he'll get and once.more we will discuss why HAZ ISNT FIRED.
dirtbag btw denver better than ever since 04-05 the D been better too no denver fan misses shanny he held that team.back.
CultBrennan59
10-31-2012, 03:23 AM
Carriker had 5.5 sacks last season. Not bad for sure.
One last thing I'll add;
Orakpo ranked 10th among (3-4) LBs in sacks last year (9 sacks)
Carriker ranked 7th among (3-4) DEs in sacks last year (5.5 sacks)
(Bowen was 4th among 3-4 DEs with 6 sacks)
[random note**JJ Watt last year had 5**]
CultBrennan59
10-31-2012, 03:25 AM
Expected alot more fromJenkins. He was supposed to be like a bonus early round pick this year because he never played last yeAr. He might as well still be on the IR. Big disappointment.
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Yeah it sucks because he looked promising from the preseason before getting injured; hell one of my magazines listed him as the 10th best 3-4 DE in the NFL; thats how much people praised this guy. Makes you wonder how much that ACL injury is affecting him or if he's fine, but is being a carson palmer worrying that he's going to re-tear it.