NC_Skins
10-28-2012, 10:44 PM
It only took Gibbs two years to turn around a team that Spurrier ruined after a decade away from the game.
It only took 2 years because he sold the future and blew it all for a short run. Then he hauled ass when he knew the team would be dump due to age/salary cap/depth issues. Gibbs and Cerrato played a huge part in the mess we are in now.
If Mike were to go sell out our future picks for vets, I imagine he can win now as well. That and sign every FA on the market.
punch it in
10-28-2012, 10:45 PM
And he's damn great at it
The best
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GTripp0012
10-28-2012, 10:46 PM
It only took 2 years because he sold the future and blew it all for a short run. Then he hauled ass when he knew the team would be dump due to age/salary cap/depth issues. Gibbs and Cerrato played a huge part in the mess we are in now.
If Mike were to go sell out our future picks for vets, I imagine he can win now as well.Well, he did that in 2010 and...no, it didn't work so well.
Just stop. Give it up. Gibbs hasn't touched this team in 5 years. He's not at all responsible for the mess Shanahan created.
WaldSkins
10-28-2012, 10:50 PM
So u would go defense and then what with Griff?
Is griffin succeeding due to Kyle shannahan or is Griffin that good?
skinsfaninok
10-28-2012, 10:52 PM
Is griffin succeeding due to Kyle shannahan or is Griffin that good?
He's got a great upside and He's that good but give ks and ms credit got what they call for him
NC_Skins
10-28-2012, 10:54 PM
Well, he did that in 2010 and...no, it didn't work so well.
Just stop. Give it up. Gibbs hasn't touched this team in 5 years. He's not at all responsible for the mess Shanahan created.
Exactly, it didn't work so well and I didn't like the moves. (the McNabb one anyways) That said, he still didn't piss away the type of draft picks that Gibbs and co did.
Shall I go down the list of draft picks that Gibbs pissed away that could have been talent still on this team? Who needs next years first rounder or 3rd rounder. Let me just trade it to move up into the draft BEFORE the draft has occurred or without knowing who was on the board. Oh ****, lets just give a 4th rounder for a old ass QB that the Jags were going to cut anyways. Hey, lets trade this all-pro CB and a 2nd rounder for a RB. Oh, let me just trade this 3rd rounder for a RB (duckett) who will never amount to crap.
I could go on down the list. Gibbs is a HUGE reason why this team's talent level was so low. Stop glorifying this guy's second stint. He mortgage our future to "win now"...........remember that shit motto? THE FUTURE IS NOW!! The Redskins were one of the oldest teams in the league, and we had little to no depth.
SmootSmack
10-28-2012, 10:56 PM
I want and expect Mike Shanahan to stay but for the purposes of this thread...I'll say Mike Sherman (who I've said in years past) and Kyle Shanahan (just to piss The Goat off :) )
I think Sherman had a decent first stint as a head coach and could be one of those guys that could have a great second stint.
GTripp0012
10-28-2012, 11:00 PM
Exactly, it didn't work so well and I didn't like the moves. (the McNabb one anyways) That said, he still didn't piss away the type of draft picks that Gibbs and co did.
Shall I go down the list of draft picks that Gibbs pissed away that could have been talent still on this team? Who needs next years first rounder or 3rd rounder. Let me just trade it to move up into the draft BEFORE the draft has occurred or without knowing who was on the board. Oh ****, lets just give a 4th rounder for a old ass QB that the Jags were going to cut anyways. Hey, lets trade this all-pro CB and a 2nd rounder for a RB. Oh, let me just trade this 3rd rounder for a RB (duckett) who will never amount to crap.
I could go on down the list. Gibbs is a HUGE reason why this team's talent level was so low. Stop glorifying this guy's second stint. He mortgage our future to "win now"...........remember that shit motto? THE FUTURE IS NOW!! The Redskins were one of the oldest teams in the league, and we had little to no depth.Um, that was Bruce Allen, brah.
I mean, there was certainly a veteran flavor to Gibbs' player acquisition (and a lot of bad personnel moves), but at the end of the day, he flipped the roster in less than two years and won with it. And the core of that team was both strong and young. They could have done better with the draft picks, but after the RG3 trade, Shanahan's not exactly rolling in picks either.
There isn't any plan worse than one that mortgages the future and DOESN'T win.
Deivybaby
10-28-2012, 11:02 PM
Exactly, it didn't work so well and I didn't like the moves. (the McNabb one anyways) That said, he still didn't piss away the type of draft picks that Gibbs and co did.
Shall I go down the list of draft picks that Gibbs pissed away that could have been talent still on this team? Who needs next years first rounder or 3rd rounder. Let me just trade it to move up into the draft BEFORE the draft has occurred or without knowing who was on the board. Oh ****, lets just give a 4th rounder for a old ass QB that the Jags were going to cut anyways. Hey, lets trade this all-pro CB and a 2nd rounder for a RB. Oh, let me just trade this 3rd rounder for a RB (duckett) who will never amount to crap.
I could go on down the list. Gibbs is a HUGE reason why this team's talent level was so low. Stop glorifying this guy's second stint. He mortgage our future to "win now"...........remember that shit motto? THE FUTURE IS NOW!! The Redskins were one of the oldest teams in the league, and we had little to no depth.you can do the list but fact is the gibbs team was much better than the team we have now even in 04 we had a very good team that just had a poor QB and OL. Shanny drafted people but the nest one so far is rg3 and morris and kerrigan every one else not so mich. O and trent williams.
RGIII
10-28-2012, 11:04 PM
I want and expect Mike Shanahan to stay but for the purposes of this thread...I'll say Mike Sherman (who I've said in years past) and Kyle Shanahan (just to piss The Goat off :) )
I think Sherman had a decent first stint as a head coach and could be one of those guys that could have a great second stint.
Prophecy?